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It was just a number to show how ridiculous it is.

And the boosts before every large jump? That isn't necessary anymore. That's the whole point. They don't need to keep the unnecessary add-ons anymore.

I think Tour here, & not just bc bias

Look at stuff like the 7 ramps bundled up together on the final corner. The tiny bridge next to the road for no real reason. It's stuff like that that they need to remove. It doesn't work in 3D. It would in 2D, but not on a modern, proper version of the course.

And yes, the hardware affects the courses. You really think they'd copy past a 2D image, rather than a full-fledged 3D model that makes sense?

And yes, looking at every other GBA game, we know they had to cut back alot of what they originally wanted, every single time without fail. You really trying to tell me they perfected this one & had to fuck up what they had in mind for every other one? I rest my case.

TLDR: Once you notice the originals were random squiggles, the remakes are fine.

@WassupYoshi so basically you have a problem with Mariokart 8 as a whole, good to know

The GBA tracks were unreasonably long-winded. Good on a GBA, but off it? They'd never get far.

And spoiler alert, Double Dash was the only really 3D Mariokart bedore Wii.

Another spoiler alert, all of the Wii retros are similar to the originals bc the originals were ALL flat. Waluigi Stadium is the least flat retro, along with DK Mountain. The DS picks were also flat tracks. They specifically chose the flattest courses they could for Wii because they had gliding and underwater in mind for later.


CTGP shows what the Wii is capable of after trial & error & understanding how to develop courses on it. The devs? Make a Mariokart. That was it. CTGP took a long time to make. One MK is all the devs needed. They didn't look to go beyond that, they didn't want to go beyond that. The only reason those mods exist is because someone wasn't satisfied, or intrigued enough to wonder what they could achieve if they went deeper. Using CTGP is very, very, very flawed.


As for the Tour remakes, they're perfect. The originals were unreasonable to port over. Again, notice how they specifically reused the most unflattenable courses from GBA in Wii & 7.. GBA Mario Circuit is far & awayte WORST remake in 8/Tour, even compared to Sky Garden. Case closed.

GBA Mario Circuit is worse than the Tour remakes & faithfulness means nothing when the originals were literally a bunch of random corners that form a loop due to limitations, which don't exist anymore, so a coherent change is due. They don't have the SNES nostalgia & shouldn't be this flat in the first place; they're fixing the layouts, & the new ones are perfectly fine.  End of.

Those...were made...for MARIOKART 8 ONLY! The Tour ones were made for Tour. And the BCP has NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING, to do withthe base game whatsoever.  There isn't any correlation between what the devs did 8 years ago & now, because it's been 8 years. Heck, Tour isn't even the same team.

And no, I'd rather not have the GBA tracks keep their random squiggles in the remakes: what's the point of remaking them if they're gonna be the same anyway?

Snow Land & Boo Lake are more recently remade. They aren't "experimenting" with mobile track creation anymore, it's been 3 years now of Tour. They were also made strictly with the BCP in mind, unlike the other GBA courses in Tour. Maybe aside from Sky Garden, the BCP was still a "maybe" when the others came out. Riverside Park isn't THAT butchered from the original either.

Riverside is shorter bc the originals were a bunch of random squiggles bc the console was ass & they couldn't pull off EVERYTHING THEY WANTED. How hard is that to understand?

Sorry, sorry, Susie is peeved.

The DS is NOT actual hardware, look at the GCN tracks for confirmation of that.
With Wii & 7 they could have if they wanted to, but they specifically went with tracks that couldn't be modified later. Now that they've used all of them(except Bowser Castle 4) up, we get reimagined stuff.
And the 3D courses can't change this much, because they are 3D. Visually, yes, but not much else. SNES could, but it's too nostalgic for that change. Nostalgia is the only reason we get them besides balancing. It's that simple.

Although I have to admit, Sky Garden is more off that Sunset Wilds & Cheep Cheep Island. Maybe they rushed it or something?

Again, it's just the originals were reduced to their current state because we have usable hardware nowadays. There isn't anything more to it. End of.

I do think they'll be closer in the future, but the old Tour remakes will forever stand out. Even Snow Land & Boo Lake are still incredibly short.

I guess the Bowser Castles were remade in prior games so it was just copy & paste. They may be the only exact replicas for a while.....

1. I noticed, sorry.
2-5: All of those are still botched besides the WiiU ones, which were SPECIFICALLY MADE for a WiiU & not a mobile phone, you can't compare them.
Snow Land & Boo Lake are closer, but if you look at the OLDER GBA tracks in Tour, compared to the NEWER GBA tracks in Tour, back when it was still early days with mobile Mariokart, you can tell they cut shit to make them work. And Sky Garden still falls under that group. Deal with it.

Seems fine to me.

Ones a 32 bit handheld
Ones an actually functioning device

The first one needed to be longer bc it's a GBA, it would be mad boring otherwise
The second can now be changed to make sense, for the first time in 20 years

Anyway, they can't modify any of the other tracks on this scale anyway. The other courses already look how they were imagined to look. The originals were purely hardware limitations & not intended whatsoever. Now they can actually make the tracks, tracks.

Harmony is music/sound related by default. That doesn't work in space.
And she's literally just a girl, having an actual name doesn't mean it's bad.

She still speaking English tho

That's a terrible name, there isn't any sound in space. Why did they choose that?

I like how Rosalina randomly changed her name for no reason

Uh, literally what? Just make your Mii a custom character tbh.

Based on the BCP stuff, your level of understanding def ain't equal across the board.

How many people are you even attracted to??? 20 or sum'n???