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Here's My Take on The MKDS Retro Course Cups. Enjoy.

Shell Cup:

SNES Mario Circuit 1
GBA Shy Guy Beach
N64 Kalimari Desert
GCN Luigi Circuit

Banana Cup:

SNES Bowser's Castle 1
N64 Mario Raceway
GCN DK Mountain
GBA Lakeside Park

Leaf Cup:

GBA Luigi Circuit
SNES Donut Plains 2
GCN Yoshi Circuit
N64 DK's Jungle Parkway

Special Cup: (NOTE: I Have To Do The Order Backwards So That I Ends With SNES Rainbow Road)

GCN Wario Colosseum
GBA Snow Land
N64 Bowser's Castle
SNES Rainbow Road

When It Came To The N64 Track In The Shell Cup, I Was Really Confused.
Koopa Troopa Beach/Koopa Beach Would Make 2 Courses In The Shell Cup Beach Courses,
Luigi Raceway Would Put 2 Luigi Courses In The Shell Cup Next To Each Other....
...And Toad's Turnpike (My Hated Track From MK64) Would Be Too Much Difficult In Mirror Mode With Oncoming Traffic.
So Then I Finally Ended The Confusion With Kalimari Desert.

I think they were trying use up the can't-be-unflattened GBA courses until they had some proper hardware to remake them like we see now, & in MK Wii's defense, only 3/5 of the games up until that point had actual 3D usable tracks. It might be why 7 has 4 DS, 4 Wii, 3 N64 & 1 GBA.

I meant the cannon effects. And also I've heard that the slanted road gravity(eg. Wario's Pirate Ship on Wario Shipyard)can't just be placed whenever like standard road, & that's basically what the entire course is, including the exit to the cannon.

I second that

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You don't have to hack, you can just select the text

offtopic but how do you write these damn essays

at least you can dodge them easily with just a hop in the air.

Except.... the hardware isn't crappy anymore. The last 25 years on crap hardware don't mean anything. At all. It's not like the 2-3 year olds put on smart-steering & auto-accel & just sit & watch everyone race. It's just to help them stay on course, especially for 200. They probably don't even play the same game often(casuals, obviously).

Yeah, & they've scrapped it ever since. The Tour challenges have a similar concept, but I'm pretty  sure they're done trying to make it work.
And again, shitty hardware so they needed some good additions to make that game worth it. Not the case anymore.

Except..... the hardware was, again, shit. At the time, I would agree, they would be nonsensical, & only 3 of them existed(I have no clue when DS Yoshi Island came out), but again, that's not the case anymore. Tour has every  other sensible character already in it, maybe E.Gadd & some Sunshine reps, but we are through most of the common sense new additions at this point. Beside that, they're easy to add, which is the only reason Jigglypuff is still in Smash.

Easy>Difficult, just because it's boring doesn't mean shit. I agree that the Cat & Metals could be alts, but the Koopalings & babies are fine, & people should stop making a big deal about it.

I was talking new features wise, neither of those games has done anything on that front, except Tour's mechanics. Why any sensible dev would add all of that shit in the game, if it wasn't the LAST one they intended to make? They'd be shooting themself in the foot with that one. It's cool ro speculate, but this isn't really speculation. It's more his wishlist. They wouldn't add all that stuff.

Please explain how Smash 64, Melee, Brawl or Smash 4, are BETTER than Ultimate. I'll wait.

It's not like Mariokart 10 is coming out anytime soon or anything. It's still 2 years away minimum.

And yes my entire argument is that we don't have overly shitty hardware anymore & old shit doesn't apply, it's a Nintendo game. They ignore old stuff in every other series currently & people still ask for stuff like National Dex & Mission Mode & Adventure & TTYD & stuff they no longer care about. I could see some more of the other side being the case....if the hardware sucked, hoping for a 4DS for you all.

This is what I'd like to see Nintendo do for future Mario Kart games but I doubt they'll ever do any of this.

1. Return to pre-made vehicles, make them less balanced, and make characters cosmetic.
* The only stat Characters should have is weight, which should be divided into three classes, and characters can still drive any vehicle like they could in Mario Kart DS.
* Bikes should be as they were in MKWii but Karts should also have their own special abilities so they can compete with the overpowered bikes.
* Vehicles shouldn't be completely balanced as players have different playstyles, some vehicles should have high handling and low drift, others should have high drift and low handling. That said. All vehichles should have advantages and no single vehicle should be overpowered to where every online racer uses it (*cough* funky kong + flame runner *cough* waluigi + wiggler *cough*).

2. Make the gameplay more challenging and fun and remove casualization added into MK8DX.
* Smart steering, tilt controls, and auto-accelerate should be removed or at least turned off by default. If they stay, they should be banned in online play.
* CPUs should be smarter and more skilled and they shouldn't slow down when they get close to the player. They should have access to all items.

3. Remove the clone characters and add more unique characters to the roster.
* Remove all baby characters, reskins of characters (Pink Gold Peach, Tanooki Mario, etc.), the Koopalings (they take up too many character slots), and non-Mario characters (unless the next game is called Nintendo Kart or Mario Kart Crossroads)
* I'd rather have a 8-12 character roster with all unique characters (classic 8 + Koopa Troopa, Daisy, Waluigi, and one other character) than a 40+ character roster where every other character is a baby version or reskin of a classic character.

4. Instead of altering the gameplay even more, add some new gamemodes.
* Reverse Mode - drive all courses in reverse but the courses are altered so they are playable in reverse, and don't add those red ramps like in MKTour that feel out of place. The tracks should be reversed and remixed like in the rom hack Mario Kart DS: Gamecube Grand Prix.
* They should bring back Mission Mode or add a Challenge Mode like in this game, MKPC.
* Don't remove gamemodes either. VS mode (both singleplayer and multiplayer) and Battle mode should return and be the same as it usually is.
* If they really do want to add something new to make this a unique experience, why not make a crossover game like the Super Smash Bros. series and include characters, courses, and items from other Nintendo franchises.

5. Don't have everything unlocked by default.
* At least 2 cups if not more should be locked.
* only 12 characters should be starter characters, the rest should be unlockable.
* 200cc should be locked by default and unlocked once the player completes all cups in 150cc.

6. Separate the new tracks from the returning tracks in the GP and expand the # of tracks in the base game.
* New courses should be in the new cups and retro courses should be in the retro cups. They shouldn't be mixed together.
* There should be 40-48 tracks across 2 or 3 GPs. If there are 3 GPs, the retro GP should only have courses from the first 7 Mario Kart games (released from 1992-2011) and the third GP should only have courses from Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Mario Kart Tour (excluding retro courses from those games).
* For the retro courses, courses that have already been remade before can return but there should be at least one course from each game that hasn't been remade yet (unless all of them have been remade). We still haven't seen N64 Wario Stadium, GBA Yoshi Desert and Rainbow Road, GCN Mushroom City, Wario Colosseum, and Bowser's Castle, and Wii Toad's Factory, Dry Dry Ruins, and Moonview Highway.
* Do NOT bring back SNES Rainbow Road again. I'm tired of it always returning in every game and it's not even one of the best Rainbow Roads (if anything, it's one of the worst along with the N64 and Wii U Rainbow Roads).
* For Battle Courses, bring back N64 Double Deck and Wii Delfino Pier (they still haven't remade a Wii battle course which sucks).

7. Stop simplifying all of the retro courses and focus only on graphical improvements and remastered music. Keep the gameplay as it was in the original (for the most part)!
* Just look at what they did to all of the GBA courses, especially Sunset Wilds (which removed the last two turns for no good reason) and Sky Garden (which removed almost every other turn to where it's now a completely different course).
* I will give a pass to Nintendo if they bring back N64 Wario Stadium and add a lakitu trigger at the big jump so players don't have to redo a large portion of the course, but everything else should stay as it was.

Thoughts?