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Also funnily enough, this has implications for other series

Splatoon 4 might go from 4v4 to 5v5, or 6v6(which would be hell to watch competitively, but fun to play(as long as the maps are better))

Smash, whenever it comes out, could go up to 10-12 players

Pikmin 5 might have a new max Pikmin cap(I'm thinking around 250?).

Pokemon might run at 30fps. Might.

3D Kirby could be 4 player instead of 2 like Forgotten Land

3D Zelda will be bigger than Xenoblade X

Xenoblade itself will probably double that knowing Monolith Soft

We'll get big 3D party games like FF7R & Okami 2(assuming the reason that guy crashed out is because that game is coming out on Switch)

We've only had 14 seconds of gameplay but the future is really bright.

Lots of smaller indie games are already announcing Switch 2 ports

Guess Squeenix will say something soon.
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My prediction is that the tracks won't be wide enough tbh, also someone pointed out that the yellow thing might be a gas can, there might be a gas mechanic where you have to refuel every now & then like F-ZERO. That'd explain the Fire Flower Gas Station right before the line. It worked fine in F-ZERO, but the healing was still on the main path there...no matter what this game will be interesting.

I think the gas station is meant to be like the shortcut on GBA Mario Circuit


It could be the wonder seed. If you look closely it kind of looks like the wonder in the sand world in Mario wonder.

We were really talking about the one at the start of the course. Also I feel like it'd be more obvious if it was Wonder related. Like, why are there cars & stuff? Where are the talking flower spectators?
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My prediction is that the tracks won't be wide enough tbh, also someone pointed out that the yellow thing might be a gas can, there might be a gas mechanic where you have to refuel every now & then like F-ZERO. That'd explain the Fire Flower Gas Station right before the line. It worked fine in F-ZERO, but the healing was still on the main path there...no matter what this game will be interesting.

I think the gas station is meant to be like the shortcut on GBA Mario Circuit

It could be a double function. We still don't know at the end of the day. So much speculation...
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My prediction is that the tracks won't be wide enough tbh, also someone pointed out that the yellow thing might be a gas can, there might be a gas mechanic where you have to refuel every now & then like F-ZERO. That'd explain the Fire Flower Gas Station right before the line. It worked fine in F-ZERO, but the healing was still on the main path there...no matter what this game will be interesting.

I think the main thing for me rn is that there doesn't appear to be that many walls to prevent you from escaping, the Lakitu spots in MK8 still make sense, this is a desert, what's logically preventing me from driving away

Admittedly I don't recall what Kalimari Desert does to prevent this, I'll try that when I play tomorrow.
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Can someone get a close up image of DK since I see lots of people complaining about him

Found this one on Twitter
It looks a lot more SNES like everyone else
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ghaw2mdXkAAiSKF?format=jpg&name=360x360

I see why they were complaining he low key looks cursed

I kinda vibe with it, the arcade design makes a lil' sense, he doesn't have an SNES/64 design to go back to like everyone else, he was already there.

It's kind of crazy to think about how no one else has changed since Gamecube too, won't matter though bc heavies will suck & no one will play him

Yeah i love that he looks like movie dk

Notice, too, that the picture kinda looks like a vest. DK Jr. has a vest.

I'll be real, that's probably just the awful twitter compression. Also there's a clip where he's drifting & there's no vest.
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I was considering making this a separate topic but I'm just going to stick it here.

Here's my quick breakdown of Mario Kart X from what we've seen.

(People are calling it 9 but you'll see why I'm not in a second)

The general stuff that everyone can see will not be getting screenshots, too much time(I'm lazy)

(Also the video I'm using for this is the Gamexplain one)


First things first, right off the bat, there are 24 slots on the starting grid, which implies that races will have 24 players. That alone changes a lot of stuff(item distribution, coin count(if coins are in, that is, bullet bill speed probably needs to be higher, etc.) but for now, all we know is that 12 player is no more.

We can see more than 12 characters in the trailer:

The core 6, DK & Wario, Daisy & Rosalina are all in the opening shot.

Waluigi, King Boo, Pauline, Toadette, Shy Guy, Koopa Troopa, Bowser Jr. &...all 5 babies...also appear in subsequent shots(I personally like the babies but I know some people don't)

Moving on to the next thing, we have the course, which appears to be called Mario Bros. Circuit(it's on the starting line)

In addition, it looks like their sticking with the DS logo(it's above the circuit name), which is definitely a point for the retro believers.

The track itself seems to be set in a Wild West styled desert(ya like Cars?) & so far we can see that it seems to be a progression from circuit to highway(& likely back to circuit), with some dirt roads linking the two.

This is neither here nor there, but it is entirely possible that it's a route change kind of course.(the first lap would just be the circuit by itself, we already know that we're seeing the start of lap 2 in the footage becuz no one is on the grid) Obviously the arrow barricade is different, but it might function similarly.(not like those arrows on the city tracks made sense physically anyway)
I think that veering off & on a circuit intermitantly could be cool, but if this is the starting track(which it surely must be), I feel like the first lap would have to be more basic. Unless every course is extra dynamic now.

There's also technically the possiblity that they're devolving the lap based tracks to separate courses like in Tour, I somehow doubt it though.(hopefully not)

All 3 pre-existing vehicle types are back, & it also appears that karts will now do wheelies over boosts,(& likely with Mushrooms) just like the other vehicle types do. They will also go on three wheels will drifting, like ATVs(they already did this underwater).

The core 6, Daisy & DK all sport looks much closer to the SNES/64 era of the series, which is more apparent with some characters than others.

Some people aren't going to be a fan of the artstyle but I dig it, if it's going to be a reboot then go the whole nine yards.

There's some minor stuff as well, like how lot's of the MK8 ads are back, including MKTV, the boost panel got redesigned(it looks like the Wii halfpipes but yellow-orange, also I never noticed that that arrow is the MKDS A in the logo until now), some of the landmarks have that same MK8 naming scheme vibe(Fire Flower Gas Station, Yoshi Diner) & we also get more spectators like Sledge Bros instead of just Yoshis, Toads, & Shy Guys.

Now, onto the juicy things.

(This section will have screenshots)

First & foremost, the track is freaking MASSIVE.
https://i.ibb.co/tLKQQwk/Screenshot-2025-01-16-133134.png
You'd think that dirt road past the gas station would be where you turn off, but there are boosts past that. The highway section alone looks extra long(also the draw distance is insane, the next Zelda is gonna be crazy) This likely means that the base speed will be higher(I mean, 24 players...the track will have to be way wider & stuff to fit them all...so we might get a speed up? Even if it's still called 150cc it should be faster than 8DX's 150)

Wait. What's that yellow thing in the gas station? Enhance.
https://i.ibb.co/2M9DYhk/Screenshot-2025-01-16-133135.png
Okay, "enhance" may be a stretch, but if MK8 track design has taught me anything, that's an item box. They love doing this.(GBA Mario Circuit, Berlin Byways, Singapore Speedway, Squeaky Clean Sprint, probably some more)
So...why does it look like that? I saw some ppl saying it was a Wonder seed, but the leaves aren't there...guess we'll find out in April...

Up next, we have the almost guaranteed return of antigravity(& by extension gliding cuz they're ain't no way we're getting down from THIS without one)
https://i.ibb.co/9VNV6Kb/Screenshot-2025-01-16-134538.png

There goes the "maybe they'll use it creatively this time argument"...oh well, atleast the view off the glider will be peak.

Last, but certainly not least, the reason that I am not calling this MK9: the karts.

Observe Mario's vehicle. Look at it. Look at it real hard.
https://i.ibb.co/Lv2wPp0/Screenshot-2025-01-16-135503.png
"It's just a kart, what's your point?" Uh huh. Now look at the Standard Wheels. What do you see, friendo? Compare it to Mario Kart 8. Look how toy-ish & overly smooth it is. Look at how it isn't getting sandy like in 8, I mean this is probably beta so it isn't there yet, but still(which was a really cool detail, actually). We've seen tires like those before, haven't we?
https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/6/6e/MKT_Icon_RedStandard8.png
If it was a sequel to 8, why is everything so cartoony? Unless...it isn't a sequel to 8. Perhaps there was a game in between there...

And that's all I will say.

On a side note, Toad is driving a Tiny Titan(in his color from Wii, iirc) so some classic karts will be making a return
https://i.ibb.co/LSM1cfK/download.jpg

And that's all we've got for now!

I'm still confident that this is a new era & that the old courses will never be seen again. Like, look at the dynamics of this course. Assuming this is the starting course...almost every retro ever would be so mid if this is the beginner course!(actually it might be Flower Cup cuz that's where Mario Circuit usually goes...& then...if we have a Mario Bros Circuit, we won't have a Mario or Luigi Circuit...what would the first track be???)

Either way, regardless of whether you like the character designs or not, if you think it looks too close to MK8 graphically(you'd be wrong), or if you're somehow not interested in this at all(what?), the future is coming, & I look forward to karting with you all come this winter on some new courses in a new physics engine, with some good ass music.

End of breakdown.(until the next trailer, anyway, I highly doubt that we don't get another teaser in March before the direct in April)

Post your thoughts on this info down below!

I read ALL this and that was five minutes i’m never getting back

You literally didn't have to lmao, I wasted even longer typing it(my computer crashed)
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Fiery wrote:
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Can someone get a close up image of DK since I see lots of people complaining about him

Found this one on Twitter
It looks a lot more SNES like everyone else
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ghaw2mdXkAAiSKF?format=jpg&name=360x360

I see why they were complaining he low key looks cursed

I kinda vibe with it, the arcade design makes a lil' sense, he doesn't have an SNES/64 design to go back to like everyone else, he was already there.

It's kind of crazy to think about how no one else has changed since Gamecube too, won't matter though bc heavies will suck & no one will play him

Yeah i love that he looks like movie dk

It makes sense; that's how movie DK was designed.
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Mr_Manager wrote:
Nintendo Switch 2 looks much better than switch IMO. Also I will grind that new MK game. I don't really like the new DK model but hopefully he's not the meta. I hope they didn't totally nef bagging. Less than a year for me to grind mk8 dx vr!

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The most popular track creation this month is about to be Mario Bros Circuit.

I didn't even think about bagging. It will be so weak in this game lmao

Not that I needed another reason to look forward to it
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What is the title?????

We don't know yet, it was just a teaser.

I think he's asking about the topics's title

Oh. That tracks.

The title is my interpretation of my audible surprise when I saw the tweet about the console
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Pigouni64 wrote:
What is the title?????

We don't know yet, it was just a teaser.
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Fiery wrote:
Fiery wrote:
Can someone get a close up image of DK since I see lots of people complaining about him

Found this one on Twitter
It looks a lot more SNES like everyone else
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ghaw2mdXkAAiSKF?format=jpg&name=360x360

I see why they were complaining he low key looks cursed

I kinda vibe with it, the arcade design makes a lil' sense, he doesn't have an SNES/64 design to go back to like everyone else, he was already there.

It's kind of crazy to think about how no one else has changed since Gamecube too, won't matter though bc heavies will suck & no one will play him
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Fiery wrote:
Can someone get a close up image of DK since I see lots of people complaining about him

Found this one on Twitter
It looks a lot more SNES like everyone else
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ghaw2mdXkAAiSKF?format=jpg&name=360x360
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Someone pointed out that the date for the Direct is April 2nd because then they can avoid leaks happening(on April Fools, ppl will just write them off as fake) & that's genius.
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I was considering making this a separate topic but I'm just going to stick it here.

Here's my quick breakdown of Mario Kart X from what we've seen.

(People are calling it 9 but you'll see why I'm not in a second)

The general stuff that everyone can see will not be getting screenshots, too much time(I'm lazy)

(Also the video I'm using for this is the Gamexplain one)


First things first, right off the bat, there are 24 slots on the starting grid, which implies that races will have 24 players. That alone changes a lot of stuff(item distribution, coin count(if coins are in, that is, bullet bill speed probably needs to be higher, etc.) but for now, all we know is that 12 player is no more.

We can see more than 12 characters in the trailer:

The core 6, DK & Wario, Daisy & Rosalina are all in the opening shot.

Waluigi, King Boo, Pauline, Toadette, Shy Guy, Koopa Troopa, Bowser Jr. &...all 5 babies...also appear in subsequent shots(I personally like the babies but I know some people don't)

Moving on to the next thing, we have the course, which appears to be called Mario Bros. Circuit(it's on the starting line)

In addition, it looks like their sticking with the DS logo(it's above the circuit name), which is definitely a point for the retro believers.

The track itself seems to be set in a Wild West styled desert(ya like Cars?) & so far we can see that it seems to be a progression from circuit to highway(& likely back to circuit), with some dirt roads linking the two.

This is neither here nor there, but it is entirely possible that it's a route change kind of course.(the first lap would just be the circuit by itself, we already know that we're seeing the start of lap 2 in the footage becuz no one is on the grid) Obviously the arrow barricade is different, but it might function similarly.(not like those arrows on the city tracks made sense physically anyway)
I think that veering off & on a circuit intermitantly could be cool, but if this is the starting track(which it surely must be), I feel like the first lap would have to be more basic. Unless every course is extra dynamic now.

There's also technically the possiblity that they're devolving the lap based tracks to separate courses like in Tour, I somehow doubt it though.(hopefully not)

All 3 pre-existing vehicle types are back, & it also appears that karts will now do wheelies over boosts,(& likely with Mushrooms) just like the other vehicle types do. They will also go on three wheels will drifting, like ATVs(they already did this underwater).

The core 6, Daisy & DK all sport looks much closer to the SNES/64 era of the series, which is more apparent with some characters than others.

Some people aren't going to be a fan of the artstyle but I dig it, if it's going to be a reboot then go the whole nine yards.

There's some minor stuff as well, like how lot's of the MK8 ads are back, including MKTV, the boost panel got redesigned(it looks like the Wii halfpipes but yellow-orange, also I never noticed that that arrow is the MKDS A in the logo until now), some of the landmarks have that same MK8 naming scheme vibe(Fire Flower Gas Station, Yoshi Diner) & we also get more spectators like Sledge Bros instead of just Yoshis, Toads, & Shy Guys.

Now, onto the juicy things.

(This section will have screenshots)

First & foremost, the track is freaking MASSIVE.
https://i.ibb.co/tLKQQwk/Screenshot-2025-01-16-133134.png
You'd think that dirt road past the gas station would be where you turn off, but there are boosts past that. The highway section alone looks extra long(also the draw distance is insane, the next Zelda is gonna be crazy) This likely means that the base speed will be higher(I mean, 24 players...the track will have to be way wider & stuff to fit them all...so we might get a speed up? Even if it's still called 150cc it should be faster than 8DX's 150)

Wait. What's that yellow thing in the gas station? Enhance.
https://i.ibb.co/2M9DYhk/Screenshot-2025-01-16-133135.png
Okay, "enhance" may be a stretch, but if MK8 track design has taught me anything, that's an item box. They love doing this.(GBA Mario Circuit, Berlin Byways, Singapore Speedway, Squeaky Clean Sprint, probably some more)
So...why does it look like that? I saw some ppl saying it was a Wonder seed, but the leaves aren't there...guess we'll find out in April...

Up next, we have the almost guaranteed return of antigravity(& by extension gliding cuz they're ain't no way we're getting down from THIS without one)
https://i.ibb.co/9VNV6Kb/Screenshot-2025-01-16-134538.png

There goes the "maybe they'll use it creatively this time argument"...oh well, atleast the view off the glider will be peak.

Last, but certainly not least, the reason that I am not calling this MK9: the karts.

Observe Mario's vehicle. Look at it. Look at it real hard.
https://i.ibb.co/Lv2wPp0/Screenshot-2025-01-16-135503.png
"It's just a kart, what's your point?" Uh huh. Now look at the Standard Wheels. What do you see, friendo? Compare it to Mario Kart 8. Look how toy-ish & overly smooth it is. Look at how it isn't getting sandy like in 8, I mean this is probably beta so it isn't there yet, but still(which was a really cool detail, actually). We've seen tires like those before, haven't we?
https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/6/6e/MKT_Icon_RedStandard8.png
If it was a sequel to 8, why is everything so cartoony? Unless...it isn't a sequel to 8. Perhaps there was a game in between there...

And that's all I will say.

On a side note, Toad is driving a Tiny Titan(in his color from Wii, iirc) so some classic karts will be making a return
https://i.ibb.co/LSM1cfK/download.jpg

And that's all we've got for now!

I'm still confident that this is a new era & that the old courses will never be seen again. Like, look at the dynamics of this course. Assuming this is the starting course...almost every retro ever would be so mid if this is the beginner course!(actually it might be Flower Cup cuz that's where Mario Circuit usually goes...& then...if we have a Mario Bros Circuit, we won't have a Mario or Luigi Circuit...what would the first track be???)

Either way, regardless of whether you like the character designs or not, if you think it looks too close to MK8 graphically(you'd be wrong), or if you're somehow not interested in this at all(what?), the future is coming, & I look forward to karting with you all come this winter on some new courses in a new physics engine, with some good ass music.

End of breakdown.(until the next trailer, anyway, I highly doubt that we don't get another teaser in March before the direct in April)

Post your thoughts on this info down below!
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i just noticed something.....

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peach it's on a bike but without the bike suit, so i guess the girls will no longer have a bike suit when they on a bike


That makes no sense you cant ride a bike in a dress I think it's just that the game is in bata
ALSO HOLY F**K MARIO KART 9 LOOKS TOO GOOD

You can definitely ride a bike on a dress, but your probably right, it might just be very early.

Also the bike suits were awful imho, I'm glad Peachette only got  some boots.
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Honestly... AT THE MOMENT I don't like the new Mario Kart (and those are words I never thought of saying in my life) that there being 24 characters in the races I don't see it as very necessary (incidentally, what a tremendous leap they made from 12 characters at 24)

Visually speaking it looks the same as BCP, only they changed the character models... god what the hell did they do to my donkey kong

Everyone seems to have a more classic look(compare Peach here to Mario RPG remake & Bowser to 64 promo)) which makes sense if it's a reboot, they'd look more SMK style becuz it was the first game. Essentially it's just Wonder in full 3D(Wonder was designed to have that classical look)

In any case, Mario Kart DS & Wii look awful and ppl still love them, so I think we'll be fine. I'm just glad I'll hopefully never see ppl picking Baby Park online ever again!
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now that i see the trailer again there's going to be 24 players i think it's going to be a chaos when playing online lol

and the fact the name it's mario bros circuit it's cool because mario had his circuits and luigi too but now they both have a circuit in one track
(i'm not sure if you know what i mean)

Nah, I get you

I'm starting to see other things too, I might do a topic later with some other stuff
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One last potential call out that I spotted:

DK might look like that because it could be a redesign or the next DK game

I dunno how they'd let that slip by if that's the case, but it could be true, I'm gonna keep a pin in it

Also the new track looks massive, like look into the background, it's crazy. The straightaway with the gas station shot looks insanely long(I guess if it's 24p it's gotta accomodate the size)

Also the start line says Mario Bros. Circuit, I guess this is our circuit track
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Holy shit guys

Mankalor just posted a shot from the trailer

Look at the starting grid

This game will be 24 player

The new servers & netcode has gotta be real
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The new MK has this weird artstyle for the characters, not sure how to feel about it yet.

But if you still think retros are happening, I dunno what to tell you

yea also for the retros i hope we get gba rainbow because mk7 had snes rainbow road and mk8 had n64 rainbow road
also i can't wait for it to come out because i think almost everyone (including me) we'll make the nitro tracks in mkpc haha

I really don't think there will be any retros. It's kinda llooking ike the Mario Wonder of Mario Kart; where they depart from what the last 4 games were going for(NSMB) & try something new. There aren't really enough courses for another game of retros.(not a balanced set, anyway)We'll see in April!

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