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Honestly, extremely unpopular opinion alert, but I HATE Mario Sunshine. Given, I've only played it on Switch with Mario 3D All-Stars, but in that version I find the controls unintuitive (except the camera), the level design terrible and oh my god the DIFFICULTY! You could say "skill issue" but I've 100%'d Kirby forgor the land, Mario Odyssey, Galaxy, MK8D and Splatoon 3, which speaking of Splatoon is a very similar game to SMS. Literally Splat 3 has a boss fight from Sunshine. Yet I struggle way, WAY more over in Sunshine than I ever did in Splatoon 3 OR 2.

Anyway that took forever to type lol, what do you guys think about this?

Yeah the selling was addressed in the original topic though  and saying Luigi’s Mansion is a fine game is a understatement. Other than that I agree

¡Wii Rainbow Road coming to Mario kart Tour https://youtu.be/wL8h_8WKtGE

Here's My Take on The MKDS Retro Course Cups. Enjoy.

Shell Cup:

SNES Mario Circuit 1
GBA Shy Guy Beach
N64 Kalimari Desert
GCN Luigi Circuit

Banana Cup:

SNES Bowser's Castle 1
N64 Mario Raceway
GCN DK Mountain
GBA Lakeside Park

Leaf Cup:

GBA Luigi Circuit
SNES Donut Plains 2
GCN Yoshi Circuit
N64 DK's Jungle Parkway

Special Cup: (NOTE: I Have To Do The Order Backwards So That I Ends With SNES Rainbow Road)

GCN Wario Colosseum
GBA Snow Land
N64 Bowser's Castle
SNES Rainbow Road

When It Came To The N64 Track In The Shell Cup, I Was Really Confused.
Koopa Troopa Beach/Koopa Beach Would Make 2 Courses In The Shell Cup Beach Courses,
Luigi Raceway Would Put 2 Luigi Courses In The Shell Cup Next To Each Other....
...And Toad's Turnpike (My Hated Track From MK64) Would Be Too Much Difficult In Mirror Mode With Oncoming Traffic.
So Then I Finally Ended The Confusion With Kalimari Desert.

If you look at the custom courses for Mario Kart DS and Wii, they could have unflattened the GBA courses and revamped them like in Mario Kart 8.
The retros aren't put in cups based on difficulty anymore but they used to and they should, but Nintendo will probably stop placing cups based on difficulty since everything is already unlocked by default now. I miss the days when the games only had 8 characters and maybe some unlockable characters in later games and when some of the cups were locked by default.

I don't think they were because Mario Kart Wii didn't unflatten the GBA courses and neither did Mario Kart 7. Also, any course in that game can be unflattened as shown with GBA Mario Circuit in Mario Kart 8. Mario Kart Wii still had a better selection of courses to choose from than DS and only had 4 flat courses where DS had 8, and the Wii hardware was much better hardware than the DS and even the Gamecube. They could have easily brought back DS Waluigi Pinball (though I can see why they didn't as they already brought back GCN Waluigi Stadium), Tick-Tock Clock, or Airship Fortress, yet they chose Yoshi Falls and Desert Hills. They did okay with the GCN course selection though they could have swapped Mario Circuit and Waluigi Stadium since the latter is harder and the former shouldn't be in the Leaf cup. The N64 selection was an improvement over DS's N64 selection but the SNES and GBA selections were terrible. Mario Circuit 3 in the Lightning Cup? Another GBA Bowser Castle?

Also, while 7 did have a much better course selection, I think they should have brought back 2 GBA courses and only 1 SNES course since Super Circuit had more unique tracks than Super Mario Kart. Other than the excellent DS and Wii courses they brought back and the two GCN courses, they did a bad job choosing SNES, N64 (Kalimari Desert shouldn't have been in the Leaf Cup), and GBA courses.

We really don't need to fix any retro course selection, at least not as much as I did. I would have been satisfied if they had just used GBA Riverside Park instead of GBA Peach Circuit and changed the Lightning Cup as shown in this video (at 5:23):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEXviksbRIs

I think Mario Kart Wii's retro course selection is much worse. At least with DS its understandable because it was Nintendo's first time choosing retro courses, the DS hardware was inferior to the Gamecube, and there weren't as many courses to choose from as two of the four games had all flat courses. But Mario Kart Wii's selection? Inexcusable.

It might not be added to Tour, because Shroom Ridge isn't. It probably will get in at some point because it's a fan favourite. Also there's a cannon in DK Mountain so they could just change the textures.

Wii Rainbow Road hasn't been confirmed by Nintendo yet, but I think it should return as it would be a great idea for Nintendo to finish off the DLC with the Best Rainbow Road EVER, in my opinion.

And the BCP could've used Wii Rainbow Road

So Some of u  Might think Kirby in My name is the Nintendo Character Kirby. Well, The Name Kirby in Kirby Boy actually is the Vacuum Cleaner Kirby.

Please add them they would be AMAZING. And maybe Double Dash and Wii

20 characters is a good limit, which would include new characters. Most people would hate this and complain there aren't enough characters, and they should try playing any game before Double Dash.


48 being the absolute max is a good idea. I'd rather have 24 great nitro courses over 96 lackluster courses. 32 courses is fine too. Not every game needs to be the ultimate game, but we all know how Nintendo is. "Just play the latest game. It's everything and more. All other games are irrelevant."

It's not an issue of hardware, they honestly could have implemented this as far back as MKW (and they sorta did with automatic drifting). It's just the business direction Nintendo has been going.


MKDS is a complete game worth the price of admission mission mode or not. It's a good addition but you also have to remember that MKDS also introduced single player VS + Battle and online play. And it's not like they just abandoned Mission Mode as soon as MKDS dropped, MKW's data contains remnants of a single-player mission mode and you could argue tournament mode was a spiritual successor to it. Now why they didn't bring it back in MK7 forwards is beyond me, but I'm guessing it's because Nintendo knew they could get away with removing features (and they did).
Also this isn't a hardware issue lol.


Yoshi's Island came out in 2006 iirc.
Again I don't see how this is a hardware problem. A character at its core is a space in memory. Doesn't matter if you have 8 or 800, as long as there are maximum 8 drivers on screen and in a race at a time the game should run the exact same.
Beside that I don't really have much of an issue with the characters but it's needless bloat in a part of the game Nintendo doesn't need more shit in. Them giving the Koopalings and baby characters their own slots is the equivalent is a 10000 in 1 Famiclone console padding out its game list with random bullshit. Fact of the matter those characters don't have enough of a distinct personality in the Mario canon to deserve their own slot. An alt skin is fine but giving them their own slot to give them their own slot is beyond pointless to me.


I have no issues with simple games but ultimately they will have less replay value than another game of equivalent quality with more complex mechanics. Hence is why I find MK64 infinitely more replayable than MK8D. I could drown in the depth of MK64's mechanics, while MK8D's barely reach my ankles.


They did that with Smash Ultimate. The tagline is "Everybody is here". They're going to make another Smash game. We don't know when, but they will. It's a guaranteed system seller. Unless Nintendo and Hal Laboratories go bankrupt tomorrow and Sakurai is killed, there will be another Smash game. Either Sakurai is out of his skull insane or your point is wrong.


I didn't argue that point but lolk. If people think Ultimate is the best Smash game, then by all means I respect their opinion (I don't agree with it), but the only one? Ultimate is basically Smash 4 with some more bells and whistles. While I respect and enjoy Smash 4, it's likely the weakest installment of the franchise in retrospect, trying to please the people who liked the competitive nature of Melee while still keeping the casual appeal of Brawl. It kinda succeeded but still ended up less than the sum of its parts. Ultimate was the same idea, except it used Smash 4 as the appeal to the casuals instead of Brawl, resulting in a game with technical appeal closer to Melee. Saying that Smash 4 and Melee are bad but Ultimate is good (and the only good installment at that) is inherently contradictory.
And if you really want me to explain how any of the proceeding games are better than Ultimate...Brawl has Subspace Emissary. I don't think I need to say any more but I am fully of the belief that they could rerelease the Subspace as is for like $15 and it would make hella bank. It's that good and I wish Smash 4 and Ultimate had something even close to it.


that's literally what i said to open my post aaaaaaaaaa


It's not a hardware issue.
Let me say this again.
It's. Not. A. Hardware. Issue.
It's the business direction of Nintendo and it has been ever since Iwata passed, and arguably since the Wii dropped in 2006: Appeal to the casuals at all costs and remove features while charging more for the product, after all it'll still shit money. Hence why Nintendo's forays into mobile is just gacha with a game buried underneath the bullshit, and the Switch's library being extremely underwhelming, filled to the brim with shovelware and ports of past games, all while costing more than the consoles of old. Nintendo has no reason to create a game like TTYD or even because they'll still make the same bank or more a game with less content, so why bother? They just make the graphics prettier and the products sell themselves. And even through the worst PR disasters, Nintendo still has their cavalcade of diehard fanboys creaming themselves whenever Miyamoto breathes in their general direction. They have not and will not change, hardware or not.

This also took too long to write up.