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Messages 21 - Koopa Koopa
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battle5000 pts ★ Novice
United States
"What do you mean by slop?"
You may be asking, well I'm referring to the current era of Nintendo, the switch and switch 2 specially. If you need an example of this here's a video:
(I used Pokemon ZA as an example)


And honestly, I agree with some of the points made in this video.

I have a switch 2
But it's not because it was the shiny new thing from Nintendo, I got it because my old switch was run down. I had my old Nintendo switch 1 for almost a decade now. (God I'm getting old) and I got the switch two because my old switch ran like a GAMEBOY.

This meme is like perfect for my old switch.

https://imageproxy.ifunny.co/crop:x-20,resize:640x,quality:90x75/images/f14998fbea924e41b28f475ca8567795698ac403beb85cb100945f5233a59788_1.jpg

But getting back on track, my experience with the switch two has been pretty alright, of course there's the obvious ones (runs great, and is an overall upgrade) but the games have been, mixed for me.

Let's address the elephants in the room.

Mario Kart World and Legends Z-A. When I was younger I LOVED Mario Kart and Pokemon, I'd play MKWII for hours on my wii u, and I'd always love playing Pokemon on my 3ds. But how do these games compare? They honestly don't, Mario Kart World is fine, but to me, it's style over substance, like the battle mode is so overlooked, and I promise you, I don't think we needed it to be open world. (I only used free roam ONCE). And Legends ZA, it's.. alright, I played it and genuinely enjoy it, but that's not when I'm NOT looking around for 15 minutes just for the next task, and that's the thing. it just got repetitive.

Summary and Final Thoughts

Nintendo's been getting a lot of hate, and RIGHTFULLY SO. But sometimes, I think that it gets to a point where people don't just hate Nintendo or the games, they hate the players and fans for even enjoying the series. So, in conclusion, out of all the switch 2 Games, Sonic Racing Crossworlds (not even a nintendo made game) and LUIGI'S MANSION (A GAME OLDER THAN ME) we're the most fun games I've played on the switch 2, do with that what you will.
Messages 190 - Bowser Bowser
vs16130 pts ★ Master
battle6036 pts ★ Racer
United States
Ngl Nintendo's hate recently was because of the prices we have been from the past year. We had Mario Kart World being $80 recently, and some of the stuff Nintendo made that costed lots of money, so thats why Nintendo got lots of hate recently.
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Messages 423 - Metal Luigi Metal Luigi
vs5286 pts ★ Novice
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
Canada
Only using free roam once is insane, that's literally all of the single player content for me
Messages 414 - Metal Luigi Metal Luigi
vs51970 pts ★ Titan
battle11351 pts ★ Champion
United States
They could have (and still can) do so much more with free roam. A full world battle Royale and a hide and seek mode would be imo great additions to help make the free roam feel like a great addition.
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Messages 41 - Koopa Koopa
vs13616 pts ★ Champion
battle7351 pts ★ Racer
Ilikefire wrote:


Let's address the elephants in the room.

Mario Kart World and Legends Z-A. When I was younger I LOVED Mario Kart and Pokemon, I'd play MKWII for hours on my wii u, and I'd always love playing Pokemon on my 3ds. But how do these games compare? They honestly don't, Mario Kart World is fine, but to me, it's style over substance, like the battle mode is so overlooked, and I promise you, I don't think we needed it to be open world. (I only used free roam ONCE). And Legends ZA, it's.. alright, I played it and genuinely enjoy it, but that's not when I'm NOT looking around for 15 minutes just for the next task, and that's the thing. it just got repetitive.

Summary and Final Thoughts

Nintendo's been getting a lot of hate, and RIGHTFULLY SO. But sometimes, I think that it gets to a point where people don't just hate Nintendo or the games, they hate the players and fans for even enjoying the series. So, in conclusion, out of all the switch 2 Games, Sonic Racing Crossworlds (not even a nintendo made game) and LUIGI'S MANSION (A GAME OLDER THAN ME) we're the most fun games I've played on the switch 2, do with that what you will.

https://i.imgur.com/nF3eHC9.jpeg
To add more fire to the flame he's 15 that's make your first pokemon game sun and moon that has 2 different versions sold for same price also MK8 is better game on the wiiu because it didn't a have dlc with tracks that have a complete art style switch so kid start putting fries in the bag
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Messages 1832 - Golden Mario Golden Mario
vs11738 pts ★ Champion
battle6099 pts ★ Racer
Ireland
My personal take is that before we label Nintendo games as "slop" due to being merely expensive we have to acknowledge that corporate greed has always been a thing with Nintendo, it's just something intrinsic to being a company. As for the games themselves, hot take, I don't necessarily see a decrease in quality. The most common example everyone uses is Mario Kart World, and I'm gonna be real Mario Kart is very hit or miss for me, some of the newer ones I don't like as much as the older ones and vice versa. Nintendo has made some very good games since the debut of the Switch 2, I mean DK Bananza and Age Of Imprisonment are utterly amazing in my opinion.

We also need to consider that $80 is pretty much the standard cost for any game that isn't indie or third-party, Microsoft and Sony have already surpassed the $100 mark, after all. I don't personally think any game is worth over a 60€ equivalent I'm gonna be honest, unless the game is absolutely groundbreaking like what I assume The Duskbloods is gonna be, but if $80 is the standard then honestly it might be better to just go with the flow as a company, especially when your console isn't just a host for triple-A and quad-A games and has actually original content. If it was cheaper, then as a first-time buyer I would probably think that Mario and Zelda are third-party things that nobody gives a crap about. But they're not, they're global IPs, so $80 is unfortunately kinda reasonable in the eyes of a capitalist brand. And I'm gonna be honest, basing your opinion on a YouTube video isn't exactly the best course of action because humans are complex creatures and would probably end up checking the game out because of reverse psychology.

Now some final thoughts:
- Do I think Nintendo is greedy? Yes, but it's not just specific to Nintendo
- Have the games decreased in quality? Hard to say because the Switch 2 hasn't even been around for a year lmfao
- Are there too many overpriced ports? Certainly, but it's not like those are exclusive to the Switch 2
- Is the first-party content worth it? Honestly no, but it's very rare (if not impossible) to find something actually worth the standard cost of a console game nowadays
- Is it slop? To be fair I'd say it would be if it was just a Nintendo thing, but it's not, it's pretty much intrinsic to the gaming industry at this point



I know nobody actually pragmatic is going to pay any attention to this and I'll probably get yelled at by a bunch of simpletons for daring to not have a flock mentality instead of actually receiving constructive replies but that's my thoughts
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Messages 21 - Koopa Koopa
vs5000 pts ★ Novice
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
United States
Ilikefire wrote:


Let's address the elephants in the room.

Mario Kart World and Legends Z-A. When I was younger I LOVED Mario Kart and Pokemon, I'd play MKWII for hours on my wii u, and I'd always love playing Pokemon on my 3ds. But how do these games compare? They honestly don't, Mario Kart World is fine, but to me, it's style over substance, like the battle mode is so overlooked, and I promise you, I don't think we needed it to be open world. (I only used free roam ONCE). And Legends ZA, it's.. alright, I played it and genuinely enjoy it, but that's not when I'm NOT looking around for 15 minutes just for the next task, and that's the thing. it just got repetitive.

Summary and Final Thoughts

Nintendo's been getting a lot of hate, and RIGHTFULLY SO. But sometimes, I think that it gets to a point where people don't just hate Nintendo or the games, they hate the players and fans for even enjoying the series. So, in conclusion, out of all the switch 2 Games, Sonic Racing Crossworlds (not even a nintendo made game) and LUIGI'S MANSION (A GAME OLDER THAN ME) we're the most fun games I've played on the switch 2, do with that what you will.

https://i.imgur.com/nF3eHC9.jpeg
To add more fire to the flame he's 15 that's make your first pokemon game sun and moon that has 2 different versions sold for same price also MK8 is better game on the wiiu because it didn't a have dlc with tracks that have a complete art style switch so kid start putting fries in the bag


I respect your opinion, i genuinely do, but for your Pokemon point, sun and moon weren’t the first games with the same version, that was black and white 2, which were (correct me if i’m wrong) for the same price as their originals. And your MK8 point is fine sure, but I don’t see how it relates to the overall conversation. And also, please don’t try and bring up my age like it discredits my argument. I’m just trying to have a discussion about what people think of modern day nintendo, I can see how you use my age to bring up the games that I myself grew up with around the time, but i already stated that in my original post. If the point your trying to make is that nintendo games were slop from the era I started playing then I can (kinda) see your point.
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Messages 41 - Koopa Koopa
vs13616 pts ★ Champion
battle7351 pts ★ Racer
Ilikefire wrote:
Ilikefire wrote:


Let's address the elephants in the room.

Mario Kart World and Legends Z-A. When I was younger I LOVED Mario Kart and Pokemon, I'd play MKWII for hours on my wii u, and I'd always love playing Pokemon on my 3ds. But how do these games compare? They honestly don't, Mario Kart World is fine, but to me, it's style over substance, like the battle mode is so overlooked, and I promise you, I don't think we needed it to be open world. (I only used free roam ONCE). And Legends ZA, it's.. alright, I played it and genuinely enjoy it, but that's not when I'm NOT looking around for 15 minutes just for the next task, and that's the thing. it just got repetitive.

Summary and Final Thoughts

Nintendo's been getting a lot of hate, and RIGHTFULLY SO. But sometimes, I think that it gets to a point where people don't just hate Nintendo or the games, they hate the players and fans for even enjoying the series. So, in conclusion, out of all the switch 2 Games, Sonic Racing Crossworlds (not even a nintendo made game) and LUIGI'S MANSION (A GAME OLDER THAN ME) we're the most fun games I've played on the switch 2, do with that what you will.

https://i.imgur.com/nF3eHC9.jpeg
To add more fire to the flame he's 15 that's make your first pokemon game sun and moon that has 2 different versions sold for same price also MK8 is better game on the wiiu because it didn't a have dlc with tracks that have a complete art style switch so kid start putting fries in the bag


I respect your opinion, i genuinely do, but for your Pokemon point, sun and moon weren’t the first games with the same version, that was black and white 2, which were (correct me if i’m wrong) for the same price as their originals. And your MK8 point is fine sure, but I don’t see how it relates to the overall conversation. And also, please don’t try and bring up my age like it discredits my argument. I’m just trying to have a discussion about what people think of modern day nintendo, I can see how you use my age to bring up the games that I myself grew up with around the time, but i already stated that in my original post. If the point your trying to make is that nintendo games were slop from the era I started playing then I can (kinda) see your point.


I'm trying to say that Nintendo has been like this since you been playing those games.
Messages 1 - Goomba Goomba
vs8065 pts ★ Expert
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
United States
I think this is a lot deeper of a sentiment than just the games being "slop".

There's no denying that people are upset at Nintendo right now, which I feel is deserved. Prices are going up EVERYWHERE which makes us as consumers feel betrayed and upset.The cost of living is going up, and that makes everything harder. So when Nintendo comes out with a 70 dollar rerelease of a Wii game or a 50 dollar amiibo, its hard to not feel at least a bit negative about the company.

That doesn't make their games necessarily slop though. I think that MK world definitely has its flaws, especially with its online, but DK Bananza looks super cool. I'm looking forward to playing it when I get a Switch 2. There are also some other games coming out that I'm excited for, like Splatoon Raiderz and the new Tomadachi Life.

I don't think the games are slop. I think it's just the poor business decisions that make it hard to root for Nintendo at the moment.
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Messages 546 - Mario Mario
vs24468 pts ★ Legend
battle8583 pts ★ Expert
United States
People bring up pokemon a lot with this stuff, but Nintendo doesn't make pokemon, game freak does and Nintendo's basically just the publisher.

chao wrote:
So when Nintendo comes out with a 70 dollar rerelease of a Wii game

that's missing the fact that, well, its actually 2 games.
honestly 35 dollars isn't that bad for Mario Galaxy. Its a pretty normal price form remasters/rerelases

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Messages 827 - Mario Mario
vs25282 pts ★ Legend
battle6952 pts ★ Racer
United States
tbh I don't think they're necessarily "slop", but some are kinda mediocre, MKWorld, Mario party jamboree and Kirby forgotten land's switch 2 editions are mediocre at best and Kirby Air Riders was really good. cant say much about pokemon za and Hyrule warriors cus I haven't played those games. and not sure if you're also counting Mario party jamboree and Mario wonder with this but I would say those were just mediocre, and this might be stretching but imma count Kirby forgotten land and Splatoon 3, forgotten land I havent finished but its mediocre and Splatoon 3 was good, but I wouldn't really say any of these were "slop" though
Messages 423 - Metal Luigi Metal Luigi
vs5286 pts ★ Novice
battle5000 pts ★ Novice
Canada
Ilikefire wrote:
for your Pokemon point, sun and moon weren’t the first games with the same version, that was black and white 2, which were (correct me if i’m wrong) for the same price as their originals

Because those were entirely new games, whereas Ultra Sun & Moon were remasters a la Platinum
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