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Upon ARRIVAL? Ryubix. Listen to me. She's the only character in smash history to receive heavy nerfs and still maintain her spot as the best in the game. Smash 64 Pikachu, Melee Fox and Brawl MK all became mid-tiers are getting nerfed, but not Bayonetta.

Also to clear up the confusion, when someone says "best character" we're specifically referring to top level play. The tier lists always talk about how good characters are when you are playing them as good as you possibly can, and thus bases it off tournament results as well as matchups against every other character. This is why Meta Knight was considered overpowered in Brawl, since he had no losing matchups against anyone in the cast, and dominated every tournament.

Bayonetta isn't that bad at low level, she's hard to play properly due to her entire gameplan being long combos. But since the tier list centres around top level play, difficulty isn't a factor. It's just "What does this character have, how can it be used against everyone" and having 0-death combos galore + a broken counter and insane recovery (albeit die to a glitch) is more than enough to make her the most broken in smash 4

Also quick side note: If you're talking the strongest character in terms of attack, that would be my main Ganondorf. His neutral B is the second strongest move in the game, he has the 2 strongest spikes, And all of his moves kill super early compared to the moves of other characters.

@SMG777 coming from the standpoint of a competitive gamer, Bayonetta's easily the best character in the game, topping almost every tier list of the current patch.

Now, I don't main Bayonetta, I don't even have her because using her is just unfair. But if you look at any professional player who uses her, you'll see she has no weaknesses. Amazing recovery, insane kill power (combined with having some of the strongest spikes in the game), her combos can kill you at 0% and also she has the best move in the game - Witch Time.

You know a character's broken if some tournaments considered banning her. Yep, Spain discussed outright banning players from using Bayonetta. That's how powerful she is. Basically, she's one of the most OP smash bros characters out there, second only to Brawl Meta Knight.

Note: Many of the tracks in tis game are impossible to get under 1:30.

[quote=The_Garfield_Gamer][quote=ZeKirio][b]American Top 5's



Mario Circuit 1

01 - 0'35"519 KoopaFan37
02 - 0'35"780 Veethan23
03 - 0'36"704 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'37"161 Blurple
05 - 0'37"279 Hoppingicon

Donut Plains 1

01 - 0'42"897 KoopaFan37
02 - 0'44"705 Veethan23
03 - 0'45"400 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'46"180 57Jake
05 - 0'46"273 Hoppingicon

Koopa Beach 1

01 - 0'31"628 Veethan23
02 - 0'33"250 AndyDTNT
03 - 0'33"279 KoopaFan37
04 - 0'33"442 Waluigi68
05 - 0'34"115 57Jake

Choco Island 1

01 - 0'32"406 KoopaFan37
02 - 0'32"835 Veethan23
03 - 0'33"667 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'33"775 MKC_WintrK7
05 - 0'34"779 57Jake



Vanilla Lake 1

01 - 0'29"433 KoopaFan37
02 - 0'30"129 Veethan23
03 - 0'32"562 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'33"013 Wazz
05 - 0'33"241 MKC_WintrK7

Ghost Valley 1

01 - 0'37"341 Veethan23
02 - 0'38"126 AndyDTNT
03 - 0'39"566 Hoppingicon
04 - 0'40"063 Goomba42
05 - 0'40"091 Wazz

Mario Circuit 2

01 - 0'39"250 Veethan23
02 - 0'41"175 KoopaFan37
03 - 0'41"734 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'43"284 Wazz
05 - 0'43"318 Hellojellomello

Bowser Castle 1

01 - 0'50"630 Veethan23
02 - 0'51"316 KoopaFan37
03 - 0'52"507 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'54"757 Goomba42
05 - 0'54"885 Waluigi68



Donut Plains 2

01 - 0'51"656 Veethan23
02 - 0'53"111 KoopaFan37
03 - 0'54"799 Goomba42
04 - 0'54"925 AndyDTNT
05 - 0'55"515 Hellojellomello

Bowser Castle 2

01 - 0'53"131 Veethan23
02 - 0'55"476 AndyDTNT
03 - 0'57"966 KoopaFan37
04 - 0'59"097 Goomba42
05 - 1'04"828 Wazz

Choco Island 2

01 - 0'39"806 KoopaFan37
02 - 0'40"568 Veethan23
03 - 0'41"568 Goomba42
04 - 0'41"841 AndyDTNT
05 - 0'42"026 Wazz

Mario Circuit 3

01 - 0'54"341 Veethan23
02 - 0'54"591 KoopaFan37
03 - 0'56"079 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'56"120 57Jake
05 - 0'58"048 Goomba42



Koopa Beach 2

01 - 0'35"305 Veethan23
02 - 0'37"538 Goomba42
03 - 0'38"555 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'38"972 Hellojellomello
05 - 0'39"061 KoopaFan37

Vanilla Lake 2

01 - 0'28"768 Veethan23
02 - 0'32"173 AndyDTNT
03 - 0'33"441 KoopaFan37
04 - 0'34"106 Goomba42
05 - 0'34"295 Hoppingicon

Ghost Valley 2

01 - 0'32"792 Veethan23
02 - 0'32"804 57Jake
03 - 0'34"495 TrackCreator
04 - 0'34"557 Goomba42
05 - 0'34"657 Dommisalami

Donut Plains 3

01 - 0'46"972 Veethan23
02 - 0'49"008 AndyDTNT
03 - 0'49"363 Goomba42
04 - 0'49"591 KoopaFan37
05 - 0'54"100 Hellojellomello



Ghost Valley 3

01 - 0'45"642 Veethan23
02 - 0'47"530 KoopaFan37
03 - 0'47"974 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'49"270 Goomba42
05 - 0'53"662 Wazz

Mario Circuit 4

01 - 1'03"826 Veethan23
02 - 1'03"914 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'04"146 AndyDTNT
04 - 1'05"596 Goomba42
05 - 1'07"358 Wazz

Bowser Castle 3

01 - 0'49"866 KoopaFan37
02 - 0'50"229 Veethan23
03 - 0'52"391 AndyDTNT
04 - 0'52"850 Goomba42
05 - 0'55"025 Wazz

Rainbow Road

01 - 0'56"713 Veethan23
02 - 0'57"652 KoopaFan37
03 - 0'57"655 Human64
04 - 0'59"333 AndyDTNT
05 - 1'01"598 Blurple



Peach Circuit

01 - 1'01"818 Veethan23
02 - 1'03"204 Peter9999
03 - 1'03"676 KoopaFan37
04 - 1'05"599 AndyDTNT
05 - 1'07"329 Waluigi68

Shy Guy Beach

01 - 1'15"487 Veethan23
02 - 1'16"742 AndyDTNT
03 - 1'16"949 KoopaFan37
04 - 1'18"664 Hoppingicon
05 - 1'12"361 Goomba42

Riverside Park

01 - 1'21"629 Veethan23
02 - 1'24"593 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'25"562 AndyDTNT
04 - 1'27"310 Goomba42
05 - 1'27"484 Hoppingicon

Bowser Castle I

01 - 0'51"547 Veethan23
02 - 0'51"900 AndyDTNT
03 - 0'53"282 KoopaFan37
04 - 0'54"643 57Jake
05 - 0'55"921 Goomba42




Mario Circuit

01 - 1'17"125 KoopaFan37
02 - 1'18"933 Goomba42
03 - 1'19"820 Veethan23
04 - 1'20"262 AndyDTNT
05 - 1'23"533 Waluigi68

Boo Lake

01 - 1'36"993 KoopaFan37
02 - 1'38"825 AndyDTNT
03 - 1'39"885 Veethan23
04 - 1'41"483 Goomba42
05 - 1'43"418 Hellojellomello

Cheese Land

01 - 1'19"974 Veethan23
02 - 1'24"674 KoopaFan34
03 - 1'26"371 Goomba42
04 - 1'27"590 AndyDTNT
05 - 1'29"844 57Jake

Bowser Castle II

01 - 1'16"512 Veethan23
02 - 1'21"906 AndyDTNT
03 - 1'22"098 KoopaFan37
04 - 1"23"867 Goomba42
05 - 1'26"972 57Jake



Luigi Circuit

01 - 1'36"757 Veethan23
02 - 1'37"772 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'42"032 Goomba42
04 - 1'43"864 AndyDTNT
05 - 1'44"032 Hellojellomello

Sky Garden

01 - 1'23"006 Veethan23
02 - 1'24"182 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'27"025 AndyDTNT
04 - 1'29"803 Goomba42
05 - 1'31"847 Hellojellomello

Cheep-Cheep Island

01 - 1'39"809 Veethan23
02 - 1'40"409 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'40"946 Goomba42
04 - 1'42"275 57Jake
05 - 1'44"956 AndyDTNT

Sunset Wilds

01 - 1'50"067 Veethan23
02 - 1'51"324 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'51"522 Hoppingicon
04 - 1'54"574 Goomba42
05 - 1'56"140 AndyDTNT



Snow Land

01 - 1'40"453 KoopaFan37
02 - 1'44"220 Veethan23
03 - 1'45"464 Goomba42
04 - 1'46"393 AndyDTNT
05 - 1'50"306 57Jake

Ribbon Road

01 - 1'37"083 Veethan23
02 - 1'43"750 57Jake
03 - 1'43"927 AndyDTNT
04 - 1'46"094 KoopaFan37
05 - 1'47"748 Goomba42

Yoshi Desert

01 - 1'34"808 KoopaFan37
02 - 1'35"120 Veethan23
03 - 1'35"777 Goomba42
04 - 1'38"206 AndyDTNT
05 - 1'42"598 Waluigi68

Bowser Castle III

01 - 1'45"873 57Jake
02 - 1'46"883 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'47"153 AndyDTNT
04 - 1'47"264 Veethan23
05 - 1'48"255 Hoppingicon



Lakeside Park

01 - 1'39"656 Veethan23
02 - 1'42"746 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'43"848 AndyDTNT
04 - 1'44"716 Goomba42
05 - 1'45"799 Hoppingicon

Broken Pier

01 - 1'18"599 Veethan23
02 - 1'19"380 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'19"957 Goomba42
04 - 1'20"933 AndyDTNT
05 - 1'25"345 57Jake

Bowser Castle IV

01 - 2'00"926 Veethan23
02 - 2'02"426 AndyDTNT
03 - 2'04"617 Goomba42
04 - 2'05"099 KoopaFan37
05 - 2'12"382 Hellojellomello

Rainbow Road

01 - 1'40"088 Veethan23
02 - 1'42"025 KoopaFan37
03 - 1'43"910 Goomba42
04 - 1'44"049 57Jake
05 - 1'45"006 AndyDTNT



Figure 8 Circuit

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I can't tho

ZeKirio, do you mind updating these?

Maybe, maybe not, but if you wanna play me I'm on right now!

Oh, those were the days. I can't wait to prove myself again.

Who doesn't like randbats sometimes

allior, DM me on here if you wanna battle

Well luckily for me, my favourite Pokémon to use in battle is in PU tier. Try me.

Just checked, nothing

What catch?

Yes!

extra cap.
Mushroom Gorge WR is 1:41.053 no glitch, and snaking's not even viable in MKWii

Sorry bro I can help you out with that, I have a 1:37

It's obviously ultra shortcut.

That I find hard to believe. The world record is 1:32.484, you sure you didn't mean 1:42?

I haven't played MKWii in ages. I think my best was a 2:45 I got on RR