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I'm a little disappointed with Mario Kart World and here's why.
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12536 pts ★ ChampionOn 2025-06-19 at 01:33:15
Some DLC is guaranteed. Thanks to a leak(well, maybe) from MonolithSoft themselves, costumes are definitely getting added. (Unless the model they showed is just for the next 3D Mario)
On 2025-06-18 at 15:57:33
Smash's 'Story Modes' are complete garbage
Please play Subspace Emissary before you say stuff like this lmao.
I've played Subspace several times, it's structure is literally
"X is at Y and encounters Z, if we're lucky A might be there. Then they go 2D platforming for a singular stage and then we switch to another set of character, rinse and repeat until the entire cast is there." There are so many moments where it could've been good. Subspacr has some good stories like Lucas' redemption, Dedede's redemption, the Tabuu reveal but there are so many moments that are just so random.
Like, look at Link's first moment. Yoshi is just...there. Nice.
Same for Samus. Pikachu is just being tortured. No explanation as to why or anything.
When Metaknight is encountering ICs, Lucario is just there, doing literally nothing. And then they fight. And then they truce.
It's very slapstick in it's execution, and the 2D segments are only just fine. Not to mention how 4 of the characters weren't even part of the story because they were shoehorned into the game as a whole.
Like, that scene with Ganondorf and the ship is just...stupid. Like, enter through a rift in space and time, shoot down the Halberd, get one-tapped by the Dragoon and leave? I know that the point was supposed to be that they were baiting the other fighters into Subspace for 'Master Hand', but there was literally nothing on the otherside. No army, no weaponry, just Master Hand, the same guy they've been battling before they could Spot Dodge, Air Dodge, Use Side Specials, or even Recover properly(lol).
Ganondorf and Bowser aren't stupid. Master Hand couldn't even take them nerfed. Wtf was he supposed to do? They'd never believe that. There is no reason for Ganondorf to be surprised about Tabuu's existence.
Also, the Trophy Gun was never explained. Like, at all. Wario could've built it, but like...why didn't he make another if that was the case? Why were the Shadow Game & Watches in control of the Halberd? How did Metaknight lose his own ship? Why was Snake up there? Did he get a mission from Colonel?
There's just zero context at all. It's literally hype moments & aura.
The story is practically non-existent aside from the first part where Palutena sends Pit to help & the Ness-Lucas-Pokemon Trainer thing.
World of Light's issue is that it would've taken way too much effort to have the story be more connected than a few cutscenes.
Hopefully they go for a more episodic story next time, where kt just converges at the end(kind of what Subspace was going for, but with each individual segment being longer rather than just a single level before another cutscene)
This would've worked especially great with the DLC characters, who'd have their own routes and stuff.
Pretty much Arcade modes from actual fighting games, but with more characters at a time. And make sure they actually have things to do with each other. Not just 2-3 characters with zero correlation.
For example, Ganondorf & Link, not Link & Yoshi.
Doesn't mean it has to be the same series only. Cloud, Shulk & Sora could all work really well together because their games are similar.
On 2025-06-18 at 15:38:32
3: These games were never gonna have a track builder. Not only would that be far too complicated to make (how tf are we gonna make tracks in 3D spaces? I'm sure Blender tracks take hours for Mario Kart Wii, 7 & 8, and those games don't have the deep track design that World has. That shit is not at all feasible. Neither is a 3D Mario level maker. It only really works with 2D spaces. You may want it (I want it too) but every course is going to take you around 3 hours to get to the level you would want. That's the kind of time kaizo & troll builders put in in SMM. Ain't nobody have that kinda time for every single course they want to make. There's a reason Game Builder Garage games are so short stuff.
While I overall agree with you, there has been a Mario Kart styled game with a track builder, being little big planet karting, however the general visual quality of custom tracks in MKW would likely be very low compared to the rest of the game, providing one good reason to not include a track builder, along with it not really being worth the effort to add if you ask me.
This. Smash's 'Stage Builder' is incredibly basic. You can't even use every stage background, only like 9, and all the textures are incredibly basic. No hazards really, etc. And it's a 2D game (2.5D really)
1On 2025-06-18 at 01:48:28
You haven't even played it...
1: Story modes in Racing Games are notoriously garbage(look at GX's story. That shit is a fever dream). They have much better success with worldbuilding and immersion(eg Forza) which World does have.
2: Limited track numbers never stopped Mario Kart 8 Deluxe(pre-BCP), 7, Wii or DS from becoming boring. You haven't even played it yet. There's a 90% chance that it looks boring to you because the streamer or whatever that you're seeing play it is trying to play it exactly like the previous game. (There is a chance you might be watching somebody who actually interacts with the new mechanics, but there's a larger chance for the opposite)
3: These games were never gonna have a track builder. Not only would that be far too complicated to make (how tf are we gonna make tracks in 3D spaces? I'm sure Blender tracks take hours for Mario Kart Wii, 7 & 8, and those games don't have the deep track design that World has. That shit is not at all feasible. Neither is a 3D Mario level maker. It only really works with 2D spaces. You may want it (I want it too) but every course is going to take you around 3 hours to get to the level you would want. That's the kind of time kaizo & troll builders put in in SMM. Ain't nobody have that kinda time for every single course they want to make. There's a reason Game Builder Garage games are so short stuff.
Lastly, for the crossovers, it's important to note that those only happened once. There was never any indication that it would happen again.
Kirby has his own racing game, so he'll never be in Mario Kart. That would defeat the entire purpose of his series' existence (Air Ride is going to be more technical than any pre-World Mario Kart, and that higher difficulty(+ stagnation) is what killed F-Zero) the only reason a casual player would touch Kirby Air Riders is to play as Kirby. Not happening.
1: Story modes in Racing Games are notoriously garbage(look at GX's story. That shit is a fever dream). They have much better success with worldbuilding and immersion(eg Forza) which World does have.
2: Limited track numbers never stopped Mario Kart 8 Deluxe(pre-BCP), 7, Wii or DS from becoming boring. You haven't even played it yet. There's a 90% chance that it looks boring to you because the streamer or whatever that you're seeing play it is trying to play it exactly like the previous game. (There is a chance you might be watching somebody who actually interacts with the new mechanics, but there's a larger chance for the opposite)
3: These games were never gonna have a track builder. Not only would that be far too complicated to make (how tf are we gonna make tracks in 3D spaces? I'm sure Blender tracks take hours for Mario Kart Wii, 7 & 8, and those games don't have the deep track design that World has. That shit is not at all feasible. Neither is a 3D Mario level maker. It only really works with 2D spaces. You may want it (I want it too) but every course is going to take you around 3 hours to get to the level you would want. That's the kind of time kaizo & troll builders put in in SMM. Ain't nobody have that kinda time for every single course they want to make. There's a reason Game Builder Garage games are so short stuff.
Lastly, for the crossovers, it's important to note that those only happened once. There was never any indication that it would happen again.
Kirby has his own racing game, so he'll never be in Mario Kart. That would defeat the entire purpose of his series' existence (Air Ride is going to be more technical than any pre-World Mario Kart, and that higher difficulty(+ stagnation) is what killed F-Zero) the only reason a casual player would touch Kirby Air Riders is to play as Kirby. Not happening.
I think there are some stuff we could consider of what they said, like, the track builder thing could work in a way in World, it could be like those race missions the game has, but custom, you'd have to trace on the ground the layout and add ramps and enemies, for example, all of that using the actual map of the game, it would be limited, but it could be a way to create Tracks, for Kirby, maybe they could put him to promote Kirby Airriders, I say that as a person who enjoyed the game not having crossovers
Other stuff I agree
The problem is that most people who buy Kirby games only buy them because Kirby is in them. If they can play a racing game with Kirby in it without buying a whole new game, they would.
Custom missions would be cool, but you can already cheese in-game missions with items and Rewind, and that also wouldn't have the cool factor most casual players want.
I do wish the game launched with more courses though. Well, there's always DLC I guess (it'd better be free). Hopefully the next continent is good too.
I also haven't played the game, but it's done so much things that I've wanted from Mario Kart correctly. Hopefully it only continues to grow from here (even though most casual players will be dropping it by next month)
On 2025-06-18 at 01:31:06
No track builder is criminal.
No 200cc, WHYYYYYY
No story mode, it would have been cool like smash
No crossover, I wanted the new inkling mechanic
But the game looks amazing !
No 200cc, WHYYYYYY
No story mode, it would have been cool like smash
No crossover, I wanted the new inkling mechanic
But the game looks amazing !
Smash's 'Story Modes' are complete garbage
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2On 2025-06-18 at 01:20:43
You haven't even played it...
1: Story modes in Racing Games are notoriously garbage(look at GX's story. That shit is a fever dream). They have much better success with worldbuilding and immersion(eg Forza) which World does have.
2: Limited track numbers never stopped Mario Kart 8 Deluxe(pre-BCP), 7, Wii or DS from becoming boring. You haven't even played it yet. There's a 90% chance that it looks boring to you because the streamer or whatever that you're seeing play it is trying to play it exactly like the previous game. (There is a chance you might be watching somebody who actually interacts with the new mechanics, but there's a larger chance for the opposite)
3: These games were never gonna have a track builder. Not only would that be far too complicated to make (how tf are we gonna make tracks in 3D spaces? I'm sure Blender tracks take hours for Mario Kart Wii, 7 & 8, and those games don't have the deep track design that World has. That shit is not at all feasible. Neither is a 3D Mario level maker. It only really works with 2D spaces. You may want it (I want it too) but every course is going to take you around 3 hours to get to the level you would want. That's the kind of time kaizo & troll builders put in in SMM. Ain't nobody have that kinda time for every single course they want to make. There's a reason Game Builder Garage games are so short stuff.
Lastly, for the crossovers, it's important to note that those only happened once. There was never any indication that it would become the standard. What's more, they were DLC the first time around, not part of the standard game.
Kirby has his own racing game, so he'll never be in Mario Kart. That would defeat the entire purpose of his series' existence (Air Ride is going to be more technical than any pre-World Mario Kart, and that higher difficulty(+ stagnation) is what killed F-Zero) the only reason a casual player would touch Kirby Air Riders is to play as Kirby. Not happening.
Nintendo doesn't own the Pokemon or Kirby characters either, and they'd have to get Game Freak/HAL's permission to use them. Of course they'd have a high chance of saying yes, but not necessarily always.
What's more, they already have Smash Bros. as a crossover series. Anything they want to do crossover-wise can be done there. If every game became a crossover, it'd become stale and boring. Not every game can be Fortnite(as much as Sony would like that to be the case)
NB: If they added Pokemon it'd just be Gen 1 + 2 + Lucario and atp I'd rather they just didn't bother. If you don't believe me, look at Overwatch's Street Fighter "6" collab for proof.
1: Story modes in Racing Games are notoriously garbage(look at GX's story. That shit is a fever dream). They have much better success with worldbuilding and immersion(eg Forza) which World does have.
2: Limited track numbers never stopped Mario Kart 8 Deluxe(pre-BCP), 7, Wii or DS from becoming boring. You haven't even played it yet. There's a 90% chance that it looks boring to you because the streamer or whatever that you're seeing play it is trying to play it exactly like the previous game. (There is a chance you might be watching somebody who actually interacts with the new mechanics, but there's a larger chance for the opposite)
3: These games were never gonna have a track builder. Not only would that be far too complicated to make (how tf are we gonna make tracks in 3D spaces? I'm sure Blender tracks take hours for Mario Kart Wii, 7 & 8, and those games don't have the deep track design that World has. That shit is not at all feasible. Neither is a 3D Mario level maker. It only really works with 2D spaces. You may want it (I want it too) but every course is going to take you around 3 hours to get to the level you would want. That's the kind of time kaizo & troll builders put in in SMM. Ain't nobody have that kinda time for every single course they want to make. There's a reason Game Builder Garage games are so short stuff.
Lastly, for the crossovers, it's important to note that those only happened once. There was never any indication that it would become the standard. What's more, they were DLC the first time around, not part of the standard game.
Kirby has his own racing game, so he'll never be in Mario Kart. That would defeat the entire purpose of his series' existence (Air Ride is going to be more technical than any pre-World Mario Kart, and that higher difficulty(+ stagnation) is what killed F-Zero) the only reason a casual player would touch Kirby Air Riders is to play as Kirby. Not happening.
Nintendo doesn't own the Pokemon or Kirby characters either, and they'd have to get Game Freak/HAL's permission to use them. Of course they'd have a high chance of saying yes, but not necessarily always.
What's more, they already have Smash Bros. as a crossover series. Anything they want to do crossover-wise can be done there. If every game became a crossover, it'd become stale and boring. Not every game can be Fortnite(as much as Sony would like that to be the case)
NB: If they added Pokemon it'd just be Gen 1 + 2 + Lucario and atp I'd rather they just didn't bother. If you don't believe me, look at Overwatch's Street Fighter "6" collab for proof.
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On 2025-06-13 at 02:13:24
I hate to sound like a broken record but this soundtrack is legit crazy. Second best Mario soundtrack ever(Origami King's is still better because it has better original tracks imo but these 2 are far and away above the likes of Galaxy 1/2, 3D World/Bowser's Fury and Wonder which are all amazing)
Mario was always a bit behind series like Splatoon & Xenoblade music-wise but it's much closer now. I just need the next Zelda & Pikmin games to actually have music this time and every first party Nintendo series will be good.
I haven't heard anything on a Berlin Byways remix tho. Has anybody heard one? Surely there's one...
Mario was always a bit behind series like Splatoon & Xenoblade music-wise but it's much closer now. I just need the next Zelda & Pikmin games to actually have music this time and every first party Nintendo series will be good.
I haven't heard anything on a Berlin Byways remix tho. Has anybody heard one? Surely there's one...
1On 2025-06-12 at 03:58:14
Anyway, the best credits theme pre-BCP is back.
Wii Staff Roll B has nothing on this masterpiece.
It goes really well with Wii Staff Roll A though. Like, Wii A + this instead of Wii B goes so hard.
Wii Staff Roll B has nothing on this masterpiece.
It goes really well with Wii Staff Roll A though. Like, Wii A + this instead of Wii B goes so hard.
does mkw have a live orchestra like mk8?
Absolutely live instruments on every single song except for the few solely electronic songs like Baby Park.
1On 2025-06-12 at 00:41:40
Anyway, the best credits theme pre-BCP is back.
Wii Staff Roll B has nothing on this masterpiece.
It goes really well with Wii Staff Roll A though. Like, Wii A + this instead of Wii B goes so hard.
Wii Staff Roll B has nothing on this masterpiece.
It goes really well with Wii Staff Roll A though. Like, Wii A + this instead of Wii B goes so hard.
On 2025-06-12 at 00:09:54
guys this topic is for mario kart world not persona 4 move somewhere else pls
also we can take this debate of nintendo plagiarizing to court or smth not here
also we can take this debate of nintendo plagiarizing to court or smth not here
The artist would have to do that, and I guarantee you that they're happy about being so right, looking at the replies to their art.
Also the topic creator kinda opened the can of worms of other games being discussed to begin with by calling it GOTY..
On 2025-06-11 at 22:05:29
P4R is not coming out this year I'm afraid. Maybe next year.
What is that game about?
I dunno what Persona 4 itself is about. The series itself is SMT with a better story and worse gameplay. And slightly less funny dialogue.
High school teens and TV for this one afaik.
Wow... I don't think anyone knows anything.
Roxas loves Persona, they know for sure.
It's a turn-based RPG with a TV dimension? I think thats it's Tartarus/Hell Tokyo(SMT) equivalent? These games focus on traversing alternate realities to fight people's inner-demons. Their deepes darkest thoughts and feelings that the public never gets to see. The real them, in a sense. That's what I've gotten from what I know about P5, atleast.
In SMT you just become god of all demons.
I think it's a life simulator.
I know it has dating sim aspects, but most people aren't travelling to different dimensions and fighting demons irl.
I know it has dating sim aspects, but most people aren't travelling to different dimensions and fighting demons irl.
Okay, you genuinely need to stop this. What is your goal?
On 2025-06-11 at 17:53:29
P4R is not coming out this year I'm afraid. Maybe next year.
What is that game about?
I dunno what Persona 4 itself is about. The series itself is SMT with a better story and worse gameplay. And slightly less funny dialogue.
High school teens and TV for this one afaik.
Wow... I don't think anyone knows anything.
Roxas loves Persona, they know for sure.
It's a turn-based RPG with a TV dimension? I think thats it's Tartarus/Hell Tokyo(SMT) equivalent? These games focus on traversing alternate realities to fight people's inner-demons. Their deepes darkest thoughts and feelings that the public never gets to see. The real them, in a sense. That's what I've gotten from what I know about P5, atleast.
In SMT you just become god of all demons.
I think it's a life simulator.
I know it has dating sim aspects, but most people aren't travelling to different dimensions and fighting demons irl.
On 2025-06-11 at 14:11:30
P4R is not coming out this year I'm afraid. Maybe next year.
What is that game about?
I dunno what Persona 4 itself is about. The series itself is SMT with a better story and worse gameplay. And slightly less funny dialogue.
High school teens and TV for this one afaik.
Wow... I don't think anyone knows anything.
Roxas loves Persona, they know for sure.
It's a turn-based RPG with a TV dimension? I think thats it's Tartarus/Hell Tokyo(SMT) equivalent? These games focus on traversing alternate realities to fight people's inner-demons. Their deepes darkest thoughts and feelings that the public never gets to see. The real them, in a sense. That's what I've gotten from what I know about P5, atleast.
In SMT you just become god of all demons.
On 2025-06-11 at 13:32:11
P4R is not coming out this year I'm afraid. Maybe next year.
What is that game about?
I dunno what Persona 4 itself is about. The series itself is SMT with a better story and worse gameplay. And slightly less funny dialogue.
High school teens and TV for this one afaik.
On 2025-06-11 at 04:48:48
As I said, cartoon bubbles are usually clearish-blue, not pink. Also, you can't be using exact hex codes. Like, if I drew an apple, and its hex code was #547823, and someone came along and copied my apple, they're obviously not gonna make it an exact color copy, that would be too obvious. Gimme a minute, and I'll find some more old fanarts.
"That would make it too obvious" this is not FNAF bro. You literally sound like a conspiracy theorist. The only reason against it you have is that it would be too obvious.
If that was the case, why use an even remotely similar color in the first place? Could it be that...there was no theft in the first place? Not that the artist owns that specific shade of pink.
And again, wheres the rest of their (incredible) idea at?
Not only are the bubbles different, half the powerup is missing. Are they stupid?
bro at least nintendo changed it a little bit, and, exactly. That's my question. Why use a similar shade of pink? make it your own! c'mon this is a multi-billion dollar company. they have the toold to make their own variation of a character.
And I'm saying that maybe, just maybe,
they didn't do that
because they didn't steal it to begin with?
Because they knew that they came up with it for themselves and didn't borrow the idea, and were completely unaware? I don't think Nintendo looks at Deviantart.
If you know that your creation is original, why go out of your way to change it? You don't need to prove it to anyone. That sounds more sus than just having something similar, atleast to me.
Cheat smart, not hard. (not that we'll ever know if they copied or not(again, the only thing we have to make that plausible is the color pink. Everything else is just standard flower costume Mario design and not a sign of theft))
Also, you still haven't pointed out where the rest of the concept went if they did steal it...
On 2025-06-11 at 04:01:57
As I said, cartoon bubbles are usually clearish-blue, not pink. Also, you can't be using exact hex codes. Like, if I drew an apple, and its hex code was #547823, and someone came along and copied my apple, they're obviously not gonna make it an exact color copy, that would be too obvious. Gimme a minute, and I'll find some more old fanarts.
"That would make it too obvious" this is not FNAF bro. You literally sound like a conspiracy theorist. The only reason against it you have is that it would be too obvious.
If that was the case, why use an even remotely similar color in the first place? Could it be that...there was no theft in the first place? Not that the artist owns that specific shade of pink.
And again, wheres the rest of their (incredible) idea at?
Not only are the bubbles different, half the powerup is missing. Are they stupid?
On 2025-06-11 at 02:56:08
Like look at this dude. Are you really gonna tell me that this doesn't make sense?
This is one of the few things that stays consistent in this entire series(aside from enemies). The only time it breaks is for the Boomerang Flower, which gives you a Boomerang Suit.
This is one of the few things that stays consistent in this entire series(aside from enemies). The only time it breaks is for the Boomerang Flower, which gives you a Boomerang Suit.
bro. they could've made the shirt dark blue. Just like how the cat suit is the same as the tanooki suit but different shades of yellow, they could have a darker blue than the ice flower for the bubble flower.
Then he could have little sky-blue bubbles, as bubbles are actually usually represented as blue, only pink if they're from soap.
Bro Cat Suit & Tanooki Suit are similar because they're both SUITS
These three are all FLOWERS
the only flower that isn't like this is ALSO A SUIT
Classic isn't a powerup so I dunno what you were trying to prove, fact remains that no powerup has ever done that.
Dark blue would make sense if it was water or something, but bubbles are never dark blue, and light blue is taken. And ice can't be dark blue either. Bubbles are depicted as pink though, hence the colour.
I'd readily agree if the only sign of potential theft wasn't a literal solid color.
Like, that's a Hexcode, anyone can use that. In fact, that gives me a great idea. Give me a moment.
it doesnt have to be dark blue bro, u get the point. like i know its a color, but still, you could try to be a little diffrent from the fanarts, yk what i mean? anyways, whatchu plannin?
Reread the bottom of the message now, I was editing it.
But literally what other colour could it be? Stella uses a pale green herself (mint I guess?) but aside from that, that's literally it.
We also don't know for sure when Wonder's development started. (NSMBU was in 2012, and we already know that World was being developed from 2017). This could've been planned from before the image.
Cartoon bubbles are pink, hence pink. That's literally it. The ROM hack creator came to that conclusion in 2012. The fanart might've been based off of that for all we know. (I doubt it, but it could've)
On 2025-06-11 at 02:39:41
Like look at this dude. Are you really gonna tell me that this doesn't make sense?
This is one of the few things that stays consistent in this entire series(aside from enemies). The only time it breaks is for the Boomerang Flower, which gives you a Boomerang Suit.
This is one of the few things that stays consistent in this entire series(aside from enemies). The only time it breaks is for the Boomerang Flower, which gives you a Boomerang Suit.
bro. they could've made the shirt dark blue. Just like how the cat suit is the same as the tanooki suit but different shades of yellow, they could have a darker blue than the ice flower for the bubble flower.
Then he could have little sky-blue bubbles, as bubbles are actually usually represented as blue, only pink if they're from soap.
Bro Cat Suit & Tanooki Suit are similar because they're both SUITS
These three are all FLOWERS
the only flower that isn't like this is ALSO A SUIT
Classic isn't a powerup so I dunno what you were trying to prove, fact remains that no powerup has ever done that.
Dark blue would make sense if it was water or something, but bubbles are never dark blue, and light blue is taken. And ice can't be dark blue either. Bubbles are depicted as pink though, hence the colour.
I'd readily agree if the only sign of potential theft wasn't a literal solid color.
Like, that's a Hexcode, anyone can use that. In fact, that gives me a great idea. Give me a moment.
2019 image hexcode: #d696d2
Bubble Mario art from Wonder: #eb8bf3
Already disproves it from being an exact copy.
Also, where's the rest of it? The artist specifically drew a bubble hat, with Mario skating on the bubbles. It's not like they wouldn't be able to code that: Kirby has been doing that since SNES with Ice.
Heck, we already saw a ROM hack from even earlier than this fan art that is actually 1 to 1 with Bubble Mario. It's not exactly a groundbreaking unmistakeable design. It's just Mario but pink. Give me 5 minutes and I could do that too with a color change.
On 2025-06-11 at 00:53:17
Like look at this dude. Are you really gonna tell me that this doesn't make sense?
This is one of the few things that stays consistent in this entire series(aside from enemies). The only time it breaks is for the Boomerang Flower, which gives you a Boomerang Suit.
This is one of the few things that stays consistent in this entire series(aside from enemies). The only time it breaks is for the Boomerang Flower, which gives you a Boomerang Suit.
On 2025-06-11 at 00:48:46
How's the game? Did Nintendo plagiarize as much as in Mario Wonder?
What did they plagiarize in Wonder?
B u b b l e f l o w e r
Plagiarized from who? Ignoring that the general idea is...extremely basic and obvious.
Like, that's not really plagiarism on it's own. It makes a lot of sense. Is the suit color the same? Is bubble's interaction with enemies the same? When was that Bubble Flower created? How many people knew about that fangame beforehand?
Like, I'm not gonna call someone who's never heard of A Hat in Time a plagiarizer just because their song is simply called 'Train Rush'. It'd have to be undeniable.
bro have u not seen that one fanart of bubble mario? then, nintendo just went straight ahead, months later, and copied the EXACT IDEA AND SUIT COLOR! everything about it is the same!
As I said, they already used (most) of the mechanics in NSMBU for Bubble Baby Yoshi. The only one that wasn't there is bouncing off of the bubbles (I think)
And the "suit color" in question is literally just pink.
They would definitely have nuked stuff if they stole from it, I guarantee it. It was most likely just a coincidence for the color (Because it's literally just pink.)
We'll find out next 2D Mario though.
take a look at this. https://i.postimg.cc/7Z5PkH5S/Screenshot-2025-06-09-223403.png
and this.
https://i.postimg.cc/nLKy8gGv/Screenshot-2025-06-09-223655.png
and this. https://i.postimg.cc/rm335TV2/Screenshot-2025-06-09-224142.png
and im not saying the mechanics were copied, as these are just images, but the pretty much exact suit and idea and colors and image was just copied. This is 3 images, it cant be a coincedince.
I hate to burst your bubble (lol) but the 2nd and 3rd images were created on the day of and a few days after the Mario Wonder Direct(where the new powerups besides the Elephant were first shown) respectfully. They're just fan art of the Wonder designs and only exist because of them. Not the other way around.
Only the first one has any merit, and again, the suit design in question is justpink. Soap bubbles are often represented as pink in media. It's literally just the color pink. There's no special design or anything, it's just fire flower with a pink shirt. Anyone could've done that.
Also, is there any particular reason they wouldn't have stolen the Bubble Cap Mario is wearing either? They already did something similar for Cloud flower. They definitely would've, I feel like, because that's literally genius. Incredible artwork. But again, it's just...pink.
I guess we can't have a Water powerup because of SMG4 then, with this logic. Or anything yellow because there's a lightning Mario in some fangame (I think it was a NSMBW hack)
well i just realized with the last 2, but still, i was scrolling through, and there were many more fanarts from way before smb wonder was announced. but theres so many fanarts, and you would think they would have even remotely different designs, but no. THEY'RE ALL THE SAME. Red, and pink. also its not just pink its also red. they might be linked in some way, but even if they were, theres way too many for nintendo to not see at least one. Nintendo could've tried to shake the design up a little, even a subtle change like making the gloves a different color, or making the hat red, which would've given you a way stronger point, but no. They didn't. So, in my opinion, this is complete plagiarism.
Fire Flower and Ice Flower also have the red overalls. Same for Luigi's overalls all going green. They literally did that first, sinfe the very first game. It's just how the flowers work. And again, cartoon bubbles are usually pink. Look at Stella from Angry Birds. You can't call plagiarism over a single colour.
Also, no non-suit Mario Powerup has ever changed the gloves color. There's literally no grounds for it. Heck, even the Bee Suit doesn't.
But they could've made the hat a different color.
They could've even made the M pink or smth
Even if, on some crazy coincidence, they didn't steal it, W H E R E I S T H E C R E A T I V I T Y , N I N T E N D O ? ? ?
Brother, both Fire Flower and Ice Flower also use the same colours for their shirts & hats. You're literally making zero sense here. I can't think of a single power up that doesn't do this. The suits cover everything, the Flowers change the shirts, hats & overalls, the gloves have never changed, not even with the suits or Elephant.
I'd understand if it was something they did at some point, but they literally have never done that.