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(This is from the perspective of a C tier lounger lol, also when I talk about distributions I'm referring to the item distribution used in CT Lounge, not the base game.)

S Tier
Free win unless it's at the end of lap 3 in which case you'd likely lose anyway, also a really fun dynamic in teams
How good this item is will depend on the track, but it's not uncommon to get a free top placement just by pressing a button, also shock dodge
Go fast, also really good if paired up with mushrooms, also shock dodge

A Tier
Same thing as a star, just slightly weaker
x3 Mushrooms are pretty essential for most shortcuts, and having three of them just makes it three times better. Also a very easy item to burn in case you want to chain (cough gold shroom cough)
Weaker shock, also alot harder to use right. Can still easily turn the tides on a race though. LE MINI SHOCK
Same thing as triple mushrooms. Also forgot to mention dodging blue shells which is another crucial aspect. While all the other items mentioned earlier (except shock and pow) can blue dodge, an opportunity for that to happen comes very rarely unlike the single shroom which you can pull in 2nd place

B Tier
x3 This item would probably be higher if it wasn't buggy as hell. Single red shells already have some issues, and the triple red shell brings even more issues where you throw a red, it goes backwards, it kills one of your reds, leaving you with a single rotating red shell (worse than just pulling one red shell), fortunately this doesn't happen that often
Speaking of single red shell, this item is generally useful. Sniping 1st place because they made the mistake of showing their fib is always funny. Problem is it can be useless, either going straight into a wall for no reason or hitting a decor with wall collisions (Quick Kernell Pro Track Creation Tip: always disable those, they never play well). Also can be used to scare the people behind you to not catch up.
The best item you can pull in first place, amazing to trail as you'll scare the nutsack of people behind you and especially great on cannons to pretty much guarantee killing someone. You can also snipe if you're good. Only problem is that it can backfire if you don't keep your momentum. Also fun fact I made the new bob omb sprite and Wargor did not put me in the website credits
x3 Contending with the bomb for best item in 1st as this provides really good defense as well as allowing you to block shortcuts
Funny wall snipe haha unga bunga. Also good defensively.
x3 You might be wondering why the triple version is lower, and that is because of the placement. While this item is decent in 2nd, anything behind that is just pretty much trash. Still decently defensive but it won't protect you from all the invincibility items later positions get. Also a good time to mention that if you throw 2 green shells forward in quick succession, they hit each other and if you use a green followed by a mushroom you hit yourself.
Not nearly as good as the triple version, but still able to block a red or make someone take a wider turn.
It does kinda bother me that this is the only item that isn't really an official MK item but whatever it fits the game regardless. Anyway it's just a stronger banana. Really funny to use on tracks with teleporters as you can basically guarantee a hit if another person takes the teleport.

C Tier
Ngl while making the tier list I forgot about C tier lol. Anyway this is the MKPC equivalent of the coin item, as in a mostly useless item so 1st place can't dodge every red shell thrown their way. Can be used to dodge blue shells apparently but it still slows you down and personally haven't had many opportunities to do this strat (wouldn't a banana also be better?)

D Tier
This is a hot take, but honestly this item just exists to punish last place. This item is a significantly worse bullet bill, which you get in the same placements as a bullet bill. All it does is prevent you from using any other item, making you stuck with this. It can be good on some tracks if they have a lot of off road, but there aren't that many. It also ruins your bagging. If there was a button to just end it instantly this item would be A tier, maybe even S but as it is now it is complete garbage.
Probably the most important item from a game design standpoint. Prevents first place from easily winning every race, and being 2nd/3rd and seeing a blue shell on the minimap is very hype. That being said, getting to pull the blue shell is absolutely miserable. I have had a lot of races ruined because I pull a blue instead of any speed item and just lose. First place is also your last interest if you're all the way in the back. Similar to the shock though, a really fun item to use in team mogis (especially in 3v3/4v4)
Yeah it's a joke item. Pretty much useless as it goes for last place which is generally not what you want to hit. High likelihood they dodge too since last has a lot of invincibility items. This item is fun for dicking around, but I wouldn't ever want this in an actual serious race.
You know this item is bad when it does worse than a literal shitpost. This item does basically nothing. The dark shell at least hits something, this doesn't. It puts some ink pngs on your screen but it's really easy to see through them. You can also look at the unobstructed minimap or get rid of the effect altogether with a boost. This item had to be removed from CT Lounge because pulling it would just end your race as you get nothing while your enemies enjoy destroying you with shells or zooming past you with shrooms. Really hope this item gets reworked someday so it's actually usable, there's a lot of creative options you could do with the blooper. You could block the minimaps + item wheel, you could make the ink reduce stats, you could make the ink slippery and probably a million other things I haven't thought of.

You don't need permission to make a video lol 🫡

People be doing anything but talk about the track

This track may look simple, but it's actually quite challenging due to having multiple shroomless cuts (AKA niscs (no item shortcuts)) and tiny boost panels at the end which do kind of blend in with the road. You can also Target Shock people on the jumps, which makes this track very funny on team mogis.

However, despite the excellent gameplay the visuals aren't super great and I'm a visual guy grr. The road is barely textured and as mentioned earlier, the boosts kinda blends in with it. Off road doesn't have shading as well as the houses (or mansions if you compare them to the decoration houses). Wish the houses also had distinct identities rather than them both looking the same. There's also the RHcks trees which I've grown to despise over the years (please make your own assets, you're never getting good like this) and I'm not a fan of how the SNES blocks are implemented either. Also feel like there should be background overrides. Speaking of the background, poor Toads are too large to fit their own door. Decors look alright though I do feel like this track has a few too many, my game lagged a couple times during my Time Trials.

Anyway I know I ranted about the visuals for most of the review but most of those are nitpicks and this is still a really good track with superb gameplay.

What do you mean?

I think I'm ultimate gambler. I know that exists already, but I can't stop winning.

What is your issue specifically?

You can get the image links for backgrounds with the inspect tool (F12)

Yes, it being more advanced is exactly the reason we have it in the first place. That's why you use Complete Mode instead of Quick Mode.



I think one huge misconception people have about custom tracks is that they're a custom level like Mario Maker. This, however, is not the case. Custom tracks are instead a form of art, and art takes time and dedication.



Quick Mode is supposed to be the easy/casual mode, hence why it's very simple. Adding more features is a waste of time since Complete Mode is right there.



I'm not sure you realise how big of a task this is. The website is almost entirely updated by one man (Wargor) and I'd say there's a lot of other things that should be prioritized over Quick Mode updates, especially since Complete Mode is right there. While I don't think making the graphics would be too big of an issue (since SNES and GBA use tiles anyway, though DS themes would need to be entirely custom made) someone still has to do it and I've not seen anyone up to the task.

This is not even mentioning how much Wargor will have to code for CPU routes and checkpoints to work on these new tiles. Maybe it's easy, I don't know, I can't program, but I'd say it's a safe bet to say that it isn't simple. Basically what Nodac is trying to say if he wasn't a jackass.


I'm not really sure what you mean with this so correct me if I'm wrong. Some themes already come with walls. Unless you mean these are more decorative tiles, but if you've seen the Quick Mode versions of tracks like Shroom Ridge or Airship Fortress then you'd know that these look really ugly in practice.



Again, completely pointless for reasons I already stated earlier.




What makes you think this new mode won't be equally repetitive? As long as it's all premade assets it'll never look or feel original. Again bringing out Mario Maker as an example: despite having many elements you can use you can't really say any level stands out from a visual standpoint.



In conclusion, use Complete Mode. If you think it's too time consuming then I'm sorry but I don't think this is the right medium meant for you.

Instead of doing conspiracy theory stuff and blindly accusing things that look perfectly fine you could've just looked up the actual artist (their name is written in the profile picture you analyzed thoroughly) and see that it was drawn by Hinasumire back in 2021 when AI art did not look this quality.

Anyway now that I've done the argument part of my message guess I should actually contribute, these are all things I remember from when I was under 10 years old (<2013)



Pretty much any song by will.i.am/Black Eyed Peas works lol, I honestly couldn't choose which one is more nostalgic for me so I just posted both (honorable mention to Rock That Body for going insanely hard)


Chipz was pretty big for children too


I spent a lot of time vibing in this specific city as a kid


Honestly one of the most underrated pieces of Mario music ever


I always grinded the star cup to play this track because it's sick as a little booboo baby (Tick Tock Clock was also cool)

gg

Sorry I won't do it again



I don't see why not

"The creations must be ORIGINAL and made for this tournament"

Think it should be specified that remakes are not allowed. The layout has to be original.

100-200 players? Keineo's tournament with 48 players is already way more than people who actually play this game, idk why people think this site is super popular. x-x

People also aren't gonna dedicate themselves to a forum post for a year, not to mention someone with 0 lounges creating a competitive tournament.

The way you rank "skill" doesn't make much sense either (especially if it includes battle mode), as it requires to grind in which case, just use the VR system the website already has.

I'm all for people playing the game, but I reccomend people should make smaller tournaments. I get that some kind of 'grand challenge' sounds very exciting but it requires a lot of work which simply isn't feasible on the forums.

Cup limit is 40* (160 tracks)

The Top Rated Creations page is very broken (Wargor logic moment)
For example your multicup is followed by Bowsers Maze with 4.89★ and 9 reviews which is simply not accurate for the top 54th creation at all LOL
Not meaning to diss you or anything, 22 reviews is nothing to scoff at but I just want to make things clear.

You definitely should. There aren't really that many tutorials for people to get into it in the first place.

Let me start off by saying at the time of writing this, there are 65K Complete Mode circuits. It is very unrealistic to expect all of them to get a lot of ratings. This has the issue of Mario Maker where there's a lot of people making levels, but nobody that's really playing them. People on this website only tend to talk about themselves/their own creations, which is fine but you can't really expect people to care if you don't care either.

I do agree though that the website should put a larger emphasis on playing custom tracks (custom tracks in general tbh) since gathering online rooms can be quite challenging and GP/VS mode gets kind of boring.


I'm guessing by "non professional" you mean they're made on websites like pixilart which generally speaking are often not very good tracks no. However keep in mind that using websites or software like pixilart or MS Paint is an active choice people make. The "professional" stuff better track creators use is free software. Anyone can download it.


Again, I do somewhat actually agree. Not to brag but since people like me and TheNudgyHampter are at the "top" we do develop somewhat of an elitist attitude so we do tend to make fun of some things. However don't think this applies to just bad tracks since we often make fun of good tracks too even if there's just one thing slightly wrong with it.


I'm going to have to cut you off here, the majority of Retro Rewind's tracks are not good. I don't think it is necessarily a bad project, since it gets less skilled track creators together. Though you can't really expect people to prefer this over MKPC Generations. You guys should strive to improve rather then hate on people who rightfully criticize it.


Honestly I don't really like numbered reviews because anything that doesn't get a near perfect rating immediately becomes 'bad'. 3/5 is not bad, it is literally over 50%. Also, listening to people that make high quality tracks would be wise since they actually know what makes a track good. Ignoring good track creators and calling them 'haters' is like trusting ChatGPT over your doctor. I can understand it being demotivating but you can just take a break. Reflect on what you could've done better and actually listen to criticism. I still do it, even when 20 5★ reviews are not uncommon for me anymore, I still see flaws with my tracks and where to improve.


You shouldn't be concerned about other people. You should make custom tracks for yourself. Most good track creators just make tracks for themselves and if other people like it then it's a bonus. At the end of the day it is your hobby, if you don't get any enjoyment there is no point in doing it.


What you're doing is hide criticism by saying "It's just my artstyle" which is a bad habit many artists have. No, tracks don't have to be ultra realistic or whatever. Puff_with_a_gun's tracks are a great example of having a unique art style that doesn't look bad.


I can understand you're upset but this is just highly immature. If you're hating on stuff for being good then I'm sorry but I don't know how you can't see you're in the wrong here. Review bombing is also against the rules so I highly advice not to.


I don't think many people outside of the Retro Rewind circlejerk will. What I'm currently seeing is you being mad that you're not making top tier tracks and complaining about it instead of trying to improve. Everything I have said in this reply applies to more Retro Rewind creators, so if you are one I reccommend reading this response in full.

If you do want to improve, there are plenty of people you can reach out to for help.


Well said. I see multiple people think that just because they get the right software they'll suddenly magically be able to make good tracks which is simply not the case. Good programs definitely help but it ultimately comes down to the drive of the creator to make something good, which is just completely ignoring the gameplay aspect of custom tracks. RHcks and Nexus' may look really good but they definitely suffer from bad colissions. (no hate to them btw)

Meanwhile, Wii Luigi Circuit and NS2 Great ? Block Ruins look great despite being made in pixilart which is the stereotypical 'bad track site'.